forestay CD36

[richard formica]

Hi,
I'm in the process of buying a 1980 cd 36. My question concerns the stay for the stay sail. When tacking it is difficult to get the head sail through the slot between the head stay and the stay sail stay. I found this especially difficult with large head sails like a 110 and 150 genoa. My assumption is this will improve as my crew, my wife, and I improve our timing on our new boat. However, my question is this, can I attach a quick release to the stay sail stay so I can move it out of the way when we are not using the stay sail. My concern is that it may provide support for the mast. Thanks
Rich



craft4@email.med.yale.edu

[Brewer Ezzell]

Richard

Go to a yankee head sail and you will have no problems with the sail coming through, at least on my CD36 this is true




bemf249@murphyfarms.com

[Joe]

Hi,
I'm in the process of buying a 1980 cd 36. My question concerns the stay for the stay sail. When tacking it is difficult to get the head sail through the slot between the head stay and the stay sail stay. I found this especially difficult with large head sails like a 110 and 150 genoa. My assumption is this will improve as my crew, my wife, and I improve our timing on our new boat. However, my question is this, can I attach a quick release to the stay sail stay so I can move it out of the way when we are not using the stay sail. My concern is that it may provide support for the mast. Thanks
Rich

Yes, you can attach a quick release. The inner forestay does nothing to support the mast. There are two ways to do this. I will first outline the extraodinarily expensive way:

Put a short track at the top of the mast and attach the stay to the track with a line so that you can use it to pull the stay up when you release it. This makes it possible to compensate for the fact that the stay will be longer, so to speak, then the mast when it is unconnected. Makes for a neater foredeck.

For those of us who are short on cash, forget the track and plan on taking the stay slightly aft and fixing it to a stancheon. Depending on your preferences, you can use a sail tie, a bungie cord, or something more substantial (and more expensive). We have found it best to use about three sail ties spaced about two feet apart to lash the stay to the shroud thus keeping it out of the way when we go foreward.

Regardless of how much experience you, your wife, your crew, your friends and neighbors develop, those pesky over 100% foresails will still hang up on the inner forestay.


Joe



tgjournal@gestalt.org

[Steve Arian]

Hi,
I'm in the process of buying a 1980 cd 36. My question concerns the stay for the stay sail. When tacking it is difficult to get the head sail through the slot between the head stay and the stay sail stay. I found this especially difficult with large head sails like a 110 and 150 genoa. My assumption is this will improve as my crew, my wife, and I improve our timing on our new boat. However, my question is this, can I attach a quick release to the stay sail stay so I can move it out of the way when we are not using the stay sail. My concern is that it may provide support for the mast. Thanks
Rich

Rich: When you tack, make sure your headsail is backwinded before you release the old leward sheet. The wind will carry the sail through. In light winds you'll just have to go forward to hand it through. In strong winds I would not want to be sailing without my afterstay. I believe it helps reduce any tendency the mast may have to pump. Good sailing, Steve Arian



sarian1286@aol.com

[Matt Cawthorne]

Richard,
It took me a while to learn how best to sail my cd-36. I never use the 150 yankee unless the 110 (it may be a 120) is in for repairs. If your sail trim is good the boat moves just fine on the smaller yankee. NEVER sail to windward with the yankee up and the staysail down. The staysail is a great help in bringing the yankee through the slot. The yankee can't wrap around the inner stay if the staysail is up. Grease the turning blocks so that the lazy sheet runs as easily as possible. Make sure that the lazy sheet is not providing any friction by being wrapped around the winch after it is released. Try these tips before spending lots of money. I also intend to splice the sheets to the yankee this winter. The splice should eliminate the hangup when the bowline passed over the inner stay. You will also want to reef the main early. It makes for much lower helm loads.

Enjoy your boat. The more time goes on the more you will appreciate it.

Matt

Hi,
I'm in the process of buying a 1980 cd 36. My question concerns the stay for the stay sail. When tacking it is difficult to get the head sail through the slot between the head stay and the stay sail stay. I found this especially difficult with large head sails like a 110 and 150 genoa. My assumption is this will improve as my crew, my wife, and I improve our timing on our new boat. However, my question is this, can I attach a quick release to the stay sail stay so I can move it out of the way when we are not using the stay sail. My concern is that it may provide support for the mast. Thanks
Rich

mcawthor@bellatlantic.net

[sam]

I have a quick release on my CD40. (Joe's- 'cheaper approach') and it works fine. The mast is still above the hull after many years of sailing. Don't remove the innerstay though as many people have. Sailing with just the main and staysail on a windy day is great. No sheets to have to grind in, modest heeling, the boat is well balanced- even in the gusts. Very pleasant and relaxing way to sail. The "old" cutter rig still has advantages over the 'new' roller furling rigs.