I have lurched around this site for nearly a year and a half, waiting to get the motivation or whatever to purchase my first Cape Dory. I found a Typhooon Weekender (1976) on the site that seemed priced so that I could have some fun fixing it up to either keep or resell. She arrived last night, and as I walked around banging on the hull, rubbing the teak and just admiring the lines, I can understand why some of you seem somewhat nutty about your Cape Dory's. I have a couple of early questions that I hope someone can help me with.
1. In an earlier message, Dana suggested a Petit Brightwork Brown for the bootstripe. The strip on this boat has been redone by someone and they used more of a red shade. Were all Typhoon's (even those with blue non skid) done with a brown stripe? I am going to redo the stripe and I want it to be as close to original as possible.
2. Dana, the white gelcoat you mentioned in the "Gelcoat Crack Repair" is that the same white that is used on the Typhoon?
3. On the transom there are two docking cleats. Unfortunately, mine aren't the same. Both are four bolt cleats, but one is aluminum while the other is a dark possibly composit material. Can the correct cleat be obtained from Rig Rite and can anyone tell me which is the original.
4. One of the halyards is in need of replacement. Should I stay with the three strand type line or go to something else. More than likely, no matter what anyone says, I will stay with the three strand.
5. Final question. It appears that the boat has both varnish and Cetol used on it. The Cetol looks very muddy and almost like latex paint. Can you truly get a good looking finish (comparable to varnish) with Cetol or do people choose it because of less maintenance.
Finally, if anyone knows any of the history of a Typhoon Weekender named Ladybug II, I would love to hear from you.
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typhoon weekender fixup
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Adam
Re: typhoon weekender fixup
Well finnaly I can give back some advice after getting so much help and peace of mind from this site for my Typhoon.
First about the boot stripe. I was only about 7-8 years old when my father first purchased the boat but I can only remember a red boot stripe on the boat. I too have blue nonskid topsides.
Second: As for the aft cleat, I only have one and its an aluminum two bolt type. starboard side.
And lastly if your not a little nutty about your cape dory. well then there is something wrong with you. but I wouldnt mention rubing the boat and checking out its lines to too many others outside these pages. the others just dont understand.
Welcome to the world of cape dory sailling. I am confident that you will enjoy every second of her. I have been sailing my typhoon for 30 years and it never gets old.
Lastly, if you get stuck with something about the boat stay close to this page and you wont get to far off course. Some good advice and help from these people.
azazz@ix.netcom.com
First about the boot stripe. I was only about 7-8 years old when my father first purchased the boat but I can only remember a red boot stripe on the boat. I too have blue nonskid topsides.
Second: As for the aft cleat, I only have one and its an aluminum two bolt type. starboard side.
And lastly if your not a little nutty about your cape dory. well then there is something wrong with you. but I wouldnt mention rubing the boat and checking out its lines to too many others outside these pages. the others just dont understand.
Welcome to the world of cape dory sailling. I am confident that you will enjoy every second of her. I have been sailing my typhoon for 30 years and it never gets old.
Lastly, if you get stuck with something about the boat stay close to this page and you wont get to far off course. Some good advice and help from these people.
azazz@ix.netcom.com
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Dana
Re: typhoon weekender fixup
* Cape Dory had two boat color "schemes" that I know of. One had blue non-skid, Seminole Red boot top and blue bottom paint....70's. Sometime later (maybe late 70s) they went to a beige non-skid, brown boot top, and brown bottom paint. I have the the latter version but I have changed the bottom paint to black.
* I would recommend bronze 4 hole Herreschoff cleats as sold by Spartan. I will attach a picture of them on a Ty to this posting.
Of course they should be backed with a backing plate. I have just changed my aft chocks to 5" "C247" Spartans. The orginals were just too small for hurricane prepareness. Due to what I believe is non-sequencing part numbering, I believe I had aft chocks for a CD22.
* Cetol comes in a "clear" and "opaque" versions. It sounds like someone used the opaque on yours. The clear is much more like varnish.
* I know you want to keep the 3 strand halyards.....I perfer low stretch braid instead. Unless you are spliced to a wire halyard section.
* The white gel coat I mentioned may not be a match for your boat. White is the toughest color to match and it can vary based on batch number, even in the same year. If you want to see a sample, I will mix up one and send it to you. You can place the sample on top of your boat.
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* I would recommend bronze 4 hole Herreschoff cleats as sold by Spartan. I will attach a picture of them on a Ty to this posting.
Of course they should be backed with a backing plate. I have just changed my aft chocks to 5" "C247" Spartans. The orginals were just too small for hurricane prepareness. Due to what I believe is non-sequencing part numbering, I believe I had aft chocks for a CD22.
* Cetol comes in a "clear" and "opaque" versions. It sounds like someone used the opaque on yours. The clear is much more like varnish.
* I know you want to keep the 3 strand halyards.....I perfer low stretch braid instead. Unless you are spliced to a wire halyard section.
* The white gel coat I mentioned may not be a match for your boat. White is the toughest color to match and it can vary based on batch number, even in the same year. If you want to see a sample, I will mix up one and send it to you. You can place the sample on top of your boat.
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Jon Larson
Re: typhoon weekender fixup
John, Congratulations on your Typhoon! You'll fall in love with it, also.
My 1975 Typhoon, with blue non skid decks, was delivered with a red boot top. That was true also of my 1981 CD30, I think the brown or tan boot top came somewhat later.
My personal tastes really liked the blue bottom and red boot top.
I suspect you could contact Spartan Marine for replacements for the original bronze cleats used on the boat. You can do a history search on this board to get their address, etc. They are in Maine if you wish to use one of the Internet search engines for phone number, ets. It appears that Robinhood Marine in Maine is also a very good source of information.
I have seen Cetol jobs that looked very much like a good varnish job. I personally like the looks of original oiled teak. It sounds like one task is to get your teak back down to original wood and then refinish in what ever mode you like. People really do rave about Cetol, it's a bit darker and more orangey than varnish, it sounds easier than varnish to keep up, so you may be quite satisfied with that.
Enjoy the boat!
Jon Larson
jon9@ix.netcom.com
My 1975 Typhoon, with blue non skid decks, was delivered with a red boot top. That was true also of my 1981 CD30, I think the brown or tan boot top came somewhat later.
My personal tastes really liked the blue bottom and red boot top.
I suspect you could contact Spartan Marine for replacements for the original bronze cleats used on the boat. You can do a history search on this board to get their address, etc. They are in Maine if you wish to use one of the Internet search engines for phone number, ets. It appears that Robinhood Marine in Maine is also a very good source of information.
I have seen Cetol jobs that looked very much like a good varnish job. I personally like the looks of original oiled teak. It sounds like one task is to get your teak back down to original wood and then refinish in what ever mode you like. People really do rave about Cetol, it's a bit darker and more orangey than varnish, it sounds easier than varnish to keep up, so you may be quite satisfied with that.
Enjoy the boat!
Jon Larson
John Phillips wrote: I have lurched around this site for nearly a year and a half, waiting to get the motivation or whatever to purchase my first Cape Dory. I found a Typhooon Weekender (1976) on the site that seemed priced so that I could have some fun fixing it up to either keep or resell. She arrived last night, and as I walked around banging on the hull, rubbing the teak and just admiring the lines, I can understand why some of you seem somewhat nutty about your Cape Dory's. I have a couple of early questions that I hope someone can help me with.
1. In an earlier message, Dana suggested a Petit Brightwork Brown for the bootstripe. The strip on this boat has been redone by someone and they used more of a red shade. Were all Typhoon's (even those with blue non skid) done with a brown stripe? I am going to redo the stripe and I want it to be as close to original as possible.
2. Dana, the white gelcoat you mentioned in the "Gelcoat Crack Repair" is that the same white that is used on the Typhoon?
3. On the transom there are two docking cleats. Unfortunately, mine aren't the same. Both are four bolt cleats, but one is aluminum while the other is a dark possibly composit material. Can the correct cleat be obtained from Rig Rite and can anyone tell me which is the original.
4. One of the halyards is in need of replacement. Should I stay with the three strand type line or go to something else. More than likely, no matter what anyone says, I will stay with the three strand.
5. Final question. It appears that the boat has both varnish and Cetol used on it. The Cetol looks very muddy and almost like latex paint. Can you truly get a good looking finish (comparable to varnish) with Cetol or do people choose it because of less maintenance.
Finally, if anyone knows any of the history of a Typhoon Weekender named Ladybug II, I would love to hear from you.
jon9@ix.netcom.com