CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
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CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
Does anyone know why the lazzarete drains into the engine sump of a 36 rather than the bilge? Does that make the whole installation more green? Once the sump fills up and flows over the bulkhead into the bilge, does the greenness wear out?
I am thinking about running a PVC line directly to the bilge. I suppose there is some chance that it could get plugged up. Is there another downside I haven't considered?
Thanks,
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
I am thinking about running a PVC line directly to the bilge. I suppose there is some chance that it could get plugged up. Is there another downside I haven't considered?
Thanks,
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
Ken
I have no idea as to the rationale for this, but mine is configured the same way. That being said, it is rare that I ever get water in that compartment so I have never considered it an issue. I have, however installed a separate electric pump for the engine sump to avoid spillage into the main bilge. This allows me to pump this either overboard or into a bucket, depending on the contents. I'm not sure it's worth re-plumbing that lazarette into the bilge unless your talking about large amounts of water.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
I have no idea as to the rationale for this, but mine is configured the same way. That being said, it is rare that I ever get water in that compartment so I have never considered it an issue. I have, however installed a separate electric pump for the engine sump to avoid spillage into the main bilge. This allows me to pump this either overboard or into a bucket, depending on the contents. I'm not sure it's worth re-plumbing that lazarette into the bilge unless your talking about large amounts of water.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
Re: CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
FWIW - Is that lazarette drain in the 36 higher than the cockpit sole by chance? If so then you might consider draining it into the cockpit and allowing it to exit the boat via the cockpit scuppers. I would want the drainage to be draining out of the boat and not into the boat.
Jeff Barnes wrote: Ken
I have no idea as to the rationale for this, but mine is configured the same way. That being said, it is rare that I ever get water in that compartment so I have never considered it an issue. I have, however installed a separate electric pump for the engine sump to avoid spillage into the main bilge. This allows me to pump this either overboard or into a bucket, depending on the contents. I'm not sure it's worth re-plumbing that lazarette into the bilge unless your talking about large amounts of water.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
Re: CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
Ken,
The lazerette can be made to stay pretty dry. You have to wait for a good rain storm and sit in the lazerette and look for leaks. You may find some real doozies. I did. By fixing the leaks you also decrease the chances of getting wet core. Aside from fixing the normal leaks, I put mushroom drains under the cowls. In order to stop salt water from getting in I put a strip of spongy neoprene arond the lid where it will seal against the lip. This helps when taking breaking seas over the stern.
Matt
mcawthor@bellatlantic.net
The lazerette can be made to stay pretty dry. You have to wait for a good rain storm and sit in the lazerette and look for leaks. You may find some real doozies. I did. By fixing the leaks you also decrease the chances of getting wet core. Aside from fixing the normal leaks, I put mushroom drains under the cowls. In order to stop salt water from getting in I put a strip of spongy neoprene arond the lid where it will seal against the lip. This helps when taking breaking seas over the stern.
Matt
mcawthor@bellatlantic.net
Re: CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
John,
No, it is well below the cockpit sole and probably below the waterline. I have never seen much water dribbling down the inside of the hull, but I don't see why that water should be deposited in the engine sump either.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
No, it is well below the cockpit sole and probably below the waterline. I have never seen much water dribbling down the inside of the hull, but I don't see why that water should be deposited in the engine sump either.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
John R. wrote: FWIW - Is that lazarette drain in the 36 higher than the cockpit sole by chance? If so then you might consider draining it into the cockpit and allowing it to exit the boat via the cockpit scuppers. I would want the drainage to be draining out of the boat and not into the boat.
Jeff Barnes wrote: Ken
I have no idea as to the rationale for this, but mine is configured the same way. That being said, it is rare that I ever get water in that compartment so I have never considered it an issue. I have, however installed a separate electric pump for the engine sump to avoid spillage into the main bilge. This allows me to pump this either overboard or into a bucket, depending on the contents. I'm not sure it's worth re-plumbing that lazarette into the bilge unless your talking about large amounts of water.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
Matt,
Thanks for the encouragement. Mushroom drains are a new concept to me; the term conjures up all sorts of things, but I can't see how any of them will help the boat. Maybe you have a picture or you can let me know where I can buy such things? A web search didn't do much good, but I think such things are used in irrigation systems.
I think my cowls are attached to "dryer" hose; short of Dorades, is there a way for them to be useful and not leak?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Thanks for the encouragement. Mushroom drains are a new concept to me; the term conjures up all sorts of things, but I can't see how any of them will help the boat. Maybe you have a picture or you can let me know where I can buy such things? A web search didn't do much good, but I think such things are used in irrigation systems.
I think my cowls are attached to "dryer" hose; short of Dorades, is there a way for them to be useful and not leak?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
matt cawthorne wrote: Ken,
The lazerette can be made to stay pretty dry. You have to wait for a good rain storm and sit in the lazerette and look for leaks. You may find some real doozies. I did. By fixing the leaks you also decrease the chances of getting wet core. Aside from fixing the normal leaks, I put mushroom drains under the cowls. In order to stop salt water from getting in I put a strip of spongy neoprene arond the lid where it will seal against the lip. This helps when taking breaking seas over the stern.
Matt
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: CD/36 Lazzarete Drain
Ken,
The item is a small, round dorade box that fits right under the cowl vent. They are usually made from plastic. The term mushroom comes from the fact that the inside has the pipe that runs through the deck and a little domed cover. The combo looks like a mushroom. You can not see the mushroom since it is contained within an outer cover. West sells a vetus unit under wm part number 142929. I'll bet that they reduce airflow.
mcawthor@bellatlantic.net
The item is a small, round dorade box that fits right under the cowl vent. They are usually made from plastic. The term mushroom comes from the fact that the inside has the pipe that runs through the deck and a little domed cover. The combo looks like a mushroom. You can not see the mushroom since it is contained within an outer cover. West sells a vetus unit under wm part number 142929. I'll bet that they reduce airflow.
mcawthor@bellatlantic.net