Re-galvanizing??
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Re-galvanizing??
Does anyone have experience with regalvanizing chain or anchors? We have a Danforth "lunch hook" with a fathom of chain that needs to be redipped. Does this make sense or should I just buy new anchor and chain?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: Re-galvanizing??
Ken, I had my 18 lb. Danforth re-galvanized last year. It cost about $65. Looks like new. I think a new anchor is around $150.
Good Luck,
Kevin LeMans
CD30 Raconteur
San Francisco
lemans@gte.net
Good Luck,
Kevin LeMans
CD30 Raconteur
San Francisco
Ken Coit wrote: Does anyone have experience with regalvanizing chain or anchors? We have a Danforth "lunch hook" with a fathom of chain that needs to be redipped. Does this make sense or should I just buy new anchor and chain?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
lemans@gte.net
How about paint?
Ken,
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Ken Coit wrote: Does anyone have experience with regalvanizing chain or anchors? We have a Danforth "lunch hook" with a fathom of chain that needs to be redipped. Does this make sense or should I just buy new anchor and chain?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
Re: Re-galvanizing??
Kevin,
Thanks for your data. I assume you have a high tensile anchor?
Danforth's 25# standard anchor is on sale at BOAT/US for less than $60; it is rated at 1600# holding power. The 12# high tensile anchor is $135 and rated at 1800# holding power; the 13# high tensile deepset 1800, rated at 1800#, is $120. Sort of apples and oranges, but close to the same holding power with rather different weights.
I am a bit curious about the holding power ratings. Fortress recommends a holding power of over 5000# for boats 33 to 38 ft. while Danforth recommends 1800# for boats up to 36 ft.
Maybe I will buy a new 25# standard and keep the rusty one for odd jobs around the house where the bleeding will not create work. On the other hand, a nice 10# aluminum Fortress FX-16 at $174 a copy would make life much easier.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Thanks for your data. I assume you have a high tensile anchor?
Danforth's 25# standard anchor is on sale at BOAT/US for less than $60; it is rated at 1600# holding power. The 12# high tensile anchor is $135 and rated at 1800# holding power; the 13# high tensile deepset 1800, rated at 1800#, is $120. Sort of apples and oranges, but close to the same holding power with rather different weights.
I am a bit curious about the holding power ratings. Fortress recommends a holding power of over 5000# for boats 33 to 38 ft. while Danforth recommends 1800# for boats up to 36 ft.
Maybe I will buy a new 25# standard and keep the rusty one for odd jobs around the house where the bleeding will not create work. On the other hand, a nice 10# aluminum Fortress FX-16 at $174 a copy would make life much easier.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Kevin L. wrote: Ken, I had my 18 lb. Danforth re-galvanized last year. It cost about $65. Looks like new. I think a new anchor is around $150.
Good Luck,
Kevin LeMans
CD30 Raconteur
San Francisco
Ken Coit wrote: Does anyone have experience with regalvanizing chain or anchors? We have a Danforth "lunch hook" with a fathom of chain that needs to be redipped. Does this make sense or should I just buy new anchor and chain?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Yes, I Think That Is an Option
We didn't drag the anchor home this weekend, but I am thinking along similar lines: gray Rustoleum or spray "galvanizing." The anchor isn't all rusty, so it shouldn't be too bad to cover it.
I would rather spend the money on a more convenient lunch hook and emergency brake although combining those functions seems counterintuitive. Maybe I can borrow the Fortress anchor from the Grady White for an experiment in braking and lunching. Maybe ....
Were boats invented for engineers or engineers for boats? What a great set of puzzles to solve.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
I would rather spend the money on a more convenient lunch hook and emergency brake although combining those functions seems counterintuitive. Maybe I can borrow the Fortress anchor from the Grady White for an experiment in braking and lunching. Maybe ....
Were boats invented for engineers or engineers for boats? What a great set of puzzles to solve.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Catherine Monaghan wrote: Ken,
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Ken Coit wrote: Does anyone have experience with regalvanizing chain or anchors? We have a Danforth "lunch hook" with a fathom of chain that needs to be redipped. Does this make sense or should I just buy new anchor and chain?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: Painting
One of the advantages of galvanizing is that they do an acid dip to remove all traces of rust..... Cathy's tale of five year old rustoleum is amazing.
KL
lemans@gte.net
KL
Ken Coit wrote:Catherine Monaghan wrote: Ken,
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Ken Coit wrote: Does anyone have experience with regalvanizing chain or anchors? We have a Danforth "lunch hook" with a fathom of chain that needs to be redipped. Does this make sense or should I just buy new anchor and chain?
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
lemans@gte.net
Re: Re-galvanizing??
Ken:
I have items galvanized from time to time. There is a 250# minimum. If you would like your anchor painted (2 part poly) I would be happy to do that for you. Just drop it by my shop sometime. Materials would be about $20.00. I paint alot of white and would be glad to shoot it for you.
Glen
glen@hobbymarine.com
I have items galvanized from time to time. There is a 250# minimum. If you would like your anchor painted (2 part poly) I would be happy to do that for you. Just drop it by my shop sometime. Materials would be about $20.00. I paint alot of white and would be glad to shoot it for you.
Glen
glen@hobbymarine.com
Re: How about paint?
I think Rustoleum is the "great answer" to alot of corrosion/rusting problems that somehow hasn't made it into alot of lists for answers to marine problems. Maybe its a "snob appeal" issue. A couple of personal observations. I live on an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean. Signs of marine salt air corrosion abound around my house, cars, everything. About 8 years ago, I took a chain link fence that was showing signs of corrosion and painted it with rustoleum. I didn't even remove the rust! Well, it looks as good today as the day I painted it some 8 years ago.Catherine Monaghan wrote: Ken,
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Second, the metal winch bases on the mast of my CD27, as well as the mast step, and some other fittings were showing various amounts of corrosion when I bought the boat. They were otherwise in good shape but the corrosion obviously had to be stopped. Well, the fittings are aluminum and they were originally black anodized. I took steps to get rid of the corrosion first, with one of those pastes, and then I painted these fittings with black rustoleum. The finish may be a little dull but otherwise its holding up just fine.
Lastly...having had the chance to cast a close eye on the conditon of Realization when anchored in Oyster Bay in late July, I would suggest that anything Bruce and Catherine suggest for maintenance of a Cape Dory be seriously considered. Lord what a beautiful CD32!
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY
Setsail728@aol.com
Re: Re-galvanizing??
Glen,
Thanks very much for that fine offer; I think it is the best I can hope for. Otherwise, I am going to either have to send it to the landfill or add it to my interesting collection of stuff that is never used.
I will bring it home next time, clean it up a bit with a wire brush, and bring it by. I'll try to let you know ahead of time, but if you find an anchor by the door of the shop, look for a tag that says it's mine. It will probably be October by then, so don't be anxious. Painting will be fine, but if you wanted to add it to a 250# galvanizing batch, that would be OK too.
Needless to say, there is no big hurry; the CQR works just fine and we will add a more appropriate lunch hook on the next trip.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Thanks very much for that fine offer; I think it is the best I can hope for. Otherwise, I am going to either have to send it to the landfill or add it to my interesting collection of stuff that is never used.
I will bring it home next time, clean it up a bit with a wire brush, and bring it by. I'll try to let you know ahead of time, but if you find an anchor by the door of the shop, look for a tag that says it's mine. It will probably be October by then, so don't be anxious. Painting will be fine, but if you wanted to add it to a 250# galvanizing batch, that would be OK too.
Needless to say, there is no big hurry; the CQR works just fine and we will add a more appropriate lunch hook on the next trip.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Hobby Marine wrote: Ken:
I have items galvanized from time to time. There is a 250# minimum. If you would like your anchor painted (2 part poly) I would be happy to do that for you. Just drop it by my shop sometime. Materials would be about $20.00. I paint alot of white and would be glad to shoot it for you.
Glen
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Por-15 or Corroseal
You may wish to consider Por-15 or Corroseal as an alternative to regular paints. I've used Por-15 products for years with exceptional results. Consult the Por-15 link below. Corroseal is also on the web but I don't know how to post two links in this posting. You can just do a web search on them.
[img]http://www.por15.com/pics/por3cans-lg.jpg[/img]
Ken Coit wrote: Glen,
Thanks very much for that fine offer; I think it is the best I can hope for. Otherwise, I am going to either have to send it to the landfill or add it to my interesting collection of stuff that is never used.
I will bring it home next time, clean it up a bit with a wire brush, and bring it by. I'll try to let you know ahead of time, but if you find an anchor by the door of the shop, look for a tag that says it's mine. It will probably be October by then, so don't be anxious. Painting will be fine, but if you wanted to add it to a 250# galvanizing batch, that would be OK too.
Needless to say, there is no big hurry; the CQR works just fine and we will add a more appropriate lunch hook on the next trip.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Hobby Marine wrote: Ken:
I have items galvanized from time to time. There is a 250# minimum. If you would like your anchor painted (2 part poly) I would be happy to do that for you. Just drop it by my shop sometime. Materials would be about $20.00. I paint alot of white and would be glad to shoot it for you.
Glen
[img]http://www.por15.com/pics/por3cans-lg.jpg[/img]
Re: How about paint?
I think paint is the answer and Glen of Hobby Marine is the applicator. Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and the team effort to solve this very ugly problem.
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Ken
Warren Kaplan wrote:I think Rustoleum is the "great answer" to alot of corrosion/rusting problems that somehow hasn't made it into alot of lists for answers to marine problems. Maybe its a "snob appeal" issue. A couple of personal observations. I live on an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean. Signs of marine salt air corrosion abound around my house, cars, everything. About 8 years ago, I took a chain link fence that was showing signs of corrosion and painted it with rustoleum. I didn't even remove the rust! Well, it looks as good today as the day I painted it some 8 years ago.Catherine Monaghan wrote: Ken,
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Second, the metal winch bases on the mast of my CD27, as well as the mast step, and some other fittings were showing various amounts of corrosion when I bought the boat. They were otherwise in good shape but the corrosion obviously had to be stopped. Well, the fittings are aluminum and they were originally black anodized. I took steps to get rid of the corrosion first, with one of those pastes, and then I painted these fittings with black rustoleum. The finish may be a little dull but otherwise its holding up just fine.
Lastly...having had the chance to cast a close eye on the conditon of Realization when anchored in Oyster Bay in late July, I would suggest that anything Bruce and Catherine suggest for maintenance of a Cape Dory be seriously considered. Lord what a beautiful CD32!
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Re: Painting
I agree with your thoughts on the Rustoleum. I have refinished my emergency tiller with Rustoleum or Krylon and it is not doing as well as I'd like. Preparation short cuts may, as usual, be the culprit.
I happen to have an investment in rust remover, so I will spend a bit of time getting down to solid metal before we have Glen do any painting.
Thanks.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
I happen to have an investment in rust remover, so I will spend a bit of time getting down to solid metal before we have Glen do any painting.
Thanks.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Kevin L. wrote: One of the advantages of galvanizing is that they do an acid dip to remove all traces of rust..... Cathy's tale of five year old rustoleum is amazing.
KL
Ken Coit wrote:Catherine Monaghan wrote: Ken,
My husband painted one of our CQRs and its 15 feet of chain with gray Rustoleum. That was 5 years ago -- so far, so good.
Cathy
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Thanks! (NM)
John R. wrote: You may wish to consider Por-15 or Corroseal as an alternative to regular paints. I've used Por-15 products for years with exceptional results. Consult the Por-15 link below. Corroseal is also on the web but I don't know how to post two links in this posting. You can just do a web search on them.
Ken Coit wrote: Glen,
Thanks very much for that fine offer; I think it is the best I can hope for. Otherwise, I am going to either have to send it to the landfill or add it to my interesting collection of stuff that is never used.
I will bring it home next time, clean it up a bit with a wire brush, and bring it by. I'll try to let you know ahead of time, but if you find an anchor by the door of the shop, look for a tag that says it's mine. It will probably be October by then, so don't be anxious. Painting will be fine, but if you wanted to add it to a 250# galvanizing batch, that would be OK too.
Needless to say, there is no big hurry; the CQR works just fine and we will add a more appropriate lunch hook on the next trip.
Keep on sailing,
Ken
Hobby Marine wrote: Ken:
I have items galvanized from time to time. There is a 250# minimum. If you would like your anchor painted (2 part poly) I would be happy to do that for you. Just drop it by my shop sometime. Materials would be about $20.00. I paint alot of white and would be glad to shoot it for you.
Glen
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com