Can you identify this boat???

John Nuttall · Post by **John Nuttall** » Aug 23rd, '02, 17:49

Check out the boat on the right......Is it a CD 36 ???......picture was taken in Egypt.

Kewl link btw. Some nice fotos from an around the world cruise.

Fair Winds...
John

Capt. Jack · Post by **Capt. Jack** » Aug 23rd, '02, 18:23

John, I was checking the CD Spec files. I'd have to agree. Though, the CD40 looks like a possability. I was trying to compare the windows, the bow,...the Bow looks like, this boat may be a cutter of some kind. Is there a CD cutter? It just looks a little long for just a sloop. Maybe it's me. Fair winds C.J.

triquane@cox.net

Kevin L. · Post by **Kevin L.** » Aug 23rd, '02, 19:14

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Capt. Jack wrote: John, I was checking the CD Spec files. I'd have to agree. Though, the CD40 looks like a possability. I was trying to compare the windows, the bow,...the Bow looks like, this boat may be a cutter of some kind. Is there a CD cutter? It just looks a little long for just a sloop. Maybe it's me. Fair winds C.J.

lemans@gte.net

Ken Coit · Post by **Ken Coit** » Aug 23rd, '02, 21:29

While at first glance it seems to look like a CD, there are several things that say it is not:

Side Decks are too wide
Stanchions are mounted on gunwhale, not on deck
Gunwhale is much wider and flat than any CD I have seen.
I think the ports are about right and the eyebrow too, but I think there are no Dorades
The coach seems boxier and narrow

Maybe it is a Mariner 36 from the NH folks. That was pretty much a knock off of the CD36. I don't think I have any photos of one, but I am sure you can find them with your superb surfing skills.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

John Nuttall wrote: Check out the boat on the right......Is it a CD 36 ???......picture was taken in Egypt.

Kewl link btw. Some nice fotos from an around the world cruise.

Fair Winds...
John

parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

Murray Glue · Post by **Murray Glue** » Aug 24th, '02, 13:52

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back? Is the Pope Catholic?

murray@offshoretechnical.com

Larry DeMers · Post by **Larry DeMers** » Aug 26th, '02, 09:59

Most CD's ARE a cutter or at least a cutterized sloop. However, the boat in question has an inner staysail on roller, so has lost his staysail boom in favor of roller capability.
I agree with Ken..looks like a close call, but something about the house line is wrong..as is the cockpit. It looks to me as if the height of the cabin is not as high as my CD30, let alone a CD36. It also seems to get shorter as it goes forward..or is that a perspective problem?

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior

Capt. Jack wrote: John, I was checking the CD Spec files. I'd have to agree. Though, the CD40 looks like a possability. I was trying to compare the windows, the bow,...the Bow looks like, this boat may be a cutter of some kind. Is there a CD cutter? It just looks a little long for just a sloop. Maybe it's me. Fair winds C.J.

demers@sgi.com

Ken Coit · Post by **Ken Coit** » Aug 26th, '02, 10:19

Larry,

FYI, Parfait has a roller furling staysail and a staysail boom. The outhaul runs between the clew and the free end of the boom (must be a nautical term for that) via a multi-part tackle, forward to the fixed end of the boom, then aft to the cockpit.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Larry DeMers wrote: Most CD's ARE a cutter or at least a cutterized sloop. However, the boat in question has an inner staysail on roller, so has lost his staysail boom in favor of roller capability.
I agree with Ken..looks like a close call, but something about the house line is wrong..as is the cockpit. It looks to me as if the height of the cabin is not as high as my CD30, let alone a CD36. It also seems to get shorter as it goes forward..or is that a perspective problem?

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior

Capt. Jack wrote: John, I was checking the CD Spec files. I'd have to agree. Though, the CD40 looks like a possability. I was trying to compare the windows, the bow,...the Bow looks like, this boat may be a cutter of some kind. Is there a CD cutter? It just looks a little long for just a sloop. Maybe it's me. Fair winds C.J.

parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

Gary L. · Post by **Gary L.** » Aug 26th, '02, 14:15

John Nuttall wrote: Check out the boat on the right......Is it a CD 36 ???......picture was taken in Egypt.

Kewl link btw. Some nice fotos from an around the world cruise.

Fair Winds...
John

It certainly looks like a Cape Dory. From this image, the aft starboard rub/toe rail looks like a Cape Dory. I sent the image home to print and scan at high resolution to blow up and check for detail.
Will let you know how it goes.

Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30C, #339
Somerset, MA

dory26@attbi.com

Larry DeMers · Post by **Larry DeMers** » Aug 26th, '02, 15:01

Hi Ken,

Cool!
Which furler did you use? Great idea..keeping the boom, then adding the reefer..acts like a stow-away-mast then. How do you like it, and what would you change? (another project takes form..). Did you use the original staysail or was another one cut for the furler?

Cheers,

Larry

Ken Coit wrote: Larry,

FYI, Parfait has a roller furling staysail and a staysail boom. The outhaul runs between the clew and the free end of the boom (must be a nautical term for that) via a multi-part tackle, forward to the fixed end of the boom, then aft to the cockpit.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Larry DeMers wrote: Most CD's ARE a cutter or at least a cutterized sloop. However, the boat in question has an inner staysail on roller, so has lost his staysail boom in favor of roller capability.
I agree with Ken..looks like a close call, but something about the house line is wrong..as is the cockpit. It looks to me as if the height of the cabin is not as high as my CD30, let alone a CD36. It also seems to get shorter as it goes forward..or is that a perspective problem?

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior

Larry DeMers wrote:
Capt. Jack wrote: John, I was checking the CD Spec files. I'd have to agree. Though, the CD40 looks like a possability. I was trying to compare the windows, the bow,...the Bow looks like, this boat may be a cutter of some kind. Is there a CD cutter? It just looks a little long for just a sloop. Maybe it's me. Fair winds C.J.

demers@sgi.com

Ken Coit · Post by **Ken Coit** » Aug 26th, '02, 16:06

I take no credit, it was all the PO's fault.

Actually, I like it. We have a Hood furler on the Yankee and a Profurl on the staysail or vice-versa; neither have been troublesome save the routing of the furling lines through bullseye bullet fairleads mounted on the stanchions. The fairleads, which are similar to exactly like those at http://www.westmarine.com/images/thumb/11046_T.JPG
are mounted outboard and they are held to the stanchions with hose clamps; they tend to rotate when you are not looking. This probably would be less of a problem if the furling lines were run inboard of the stanchions, but I haven't tried it. Once a failead isn't, the load on the furling line increases exponentially (I don't even think that is an exaggeration). If I were to bite the bullet fairlead problem again, I would first try to re-route the lines inboard. If that wasn't satisfactory and I had to do something else, West sells a sheave by Spinlock, pictured above, that looks like a winner for the same price as the Johnson product that is giving me a minor case of the fits. Starting from scratch, I'd also check out the manufacturer that sells a sheave that mounts around the stanchion. I don't remember who announced that, but I'll bet it is more than $11.99. Spinlock's sheave, also pictured above, is priced at $24.99.

The lead from each furler is perpendicular to the drum with a block mounted on the rail and then through the fairleads to the cockpit.

I don't know what sail the PO used for the roller furling conversion, but the staysail is ready to be replaced if that is any clue.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Larry DeMers wrote: Hi Ken,

Cool!
Which furler did you use? Great idea..keeping the boom, then adding the reefer..acts like a stow-away-mast then. How do you like it, and what would you change? (another project takes form..). Did you use the original staysail or was another one cut for the furler?

Cheers,

Larry

Ken Coit wrote: Larry,

FYI, Parfait has a roller furling staysail and a staysail boom. The outhaul runs between the clew and the free end of the boom (must be a nautical term for that) via a multi-part tackle, forward to the fixed end of the boom, then aft to the cockpit.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Ken Coit wrote:
Larry DeMers wrote: Most CD's ARE a cutter or at least a cutterized sloop. However, the boat in question has an inner staysail on roller, so has lost his staysail boom in favor of roller capability.
I agree with Ken..looks like a close call, but something about the house line is wrong..as is the cockpit. It looks to me as if the height of the cabin is not as high as my CD30, let alone a CD36. It also seems to get shorter as it goes forward..or is that a perspective problem?

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior

Larry DeMers wrote:

[img]http://www.westmarine.com/images/full/2637312_F.JPG[/img]
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

Larry DeMers · Post by **Larry DeMers** » Aug 27th, '02, 08:01

Ken,

We have the Hood LD roller/furler (and used as such), and I have three sets of these nifty furling leads attached to the stanchions. The advantage here is that these sexy little fairleads have ballbearing races in them, so there is next to no resistance at all.
Check them out...

Cheers,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
CD30

Ken Coit wrote: I take no credit, it was all the PO's fault.

Actually, I like it. We have a Hood furler on the Yankee and a Profurl on the staysail or vice-versa; neither have been troublesome save the routing of the furling lines through bullseye bullet fairleads mounted on the stanchions. The fairleads, which are similar to exactly like those at http://www.westmarine.com/images/thumb/11046_T.JPG
are mounted outboard and they are held to the stanchions with hose clamps; they tend to rotate when you are not looking. This probably would be less of a problem if the furling lines were run inboard of the stanchions, but I haven't tried it. Once a failead isn't, the load on the furling line increases exponentially (I don't even think that is an exaggeration). If I were to bite the bullet fairlead problem again, I would first try to re-route the lines inboard. If that wasn't satisfactory and I had to do something else, West sells a sheave by Spinlock, pictured above, that looks like a winner for the same price as the Johnson product that is giving me a minor case of the fits. Starting from scratch, I'd also check out the manufacturer that sells a sheave that mounts around the stanchion. I don't remember who announced that, but I'll bet it is more than $11.99. Spinlock's sheave, also pictured above, is priced at $24.99.

The lead from each furler is perpendicular to the drum with a block mounted on the rail and then through the fairleads to the cockpit.

I don't know what sail the PO used for the roller furling conversion, but the staysail is ready to be replaced if that is any clue.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Larry DeMers wrote: Hi Ken,

Cool!
Which furler did you use? Great idea..keeping the boom, then adding the reefer..acts like a stow-away-mast then. How do you like it, and what would you change? (another project takes form..). Did you use the original staysail or was another one cut for the furler?

Cheers,

Larry

Ken Coit wrote: Larry,

FYI, Parfait has a roller furling staysail and a staysail boom. The outhaul runs between the clew and the free end of the boom (must be a nautical term for that) via a multi-part tackle, forward to the fixed end of the boom, then aft to the cockpit.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Ken Coit wrote:

demers@sgi.com

Ken Coit · Post by **Ken Coit** » Sep 2nd, '02, 21:12

Larry,

Thanks for the tip. I was looking at the hardware at WM the other day and I didn't see them. The fairleads on Parfait continue to work themselves into unusable positions, so we are going to do something. Turning them inboard might help. A screw through the clamp into the stanchion would work, but maybe I need an elegant solution.

Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit, ND7N
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

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