difference between 28' and 30'

[Joe Amelia]

I looked at a CD 30 over the weekend, and fell in love! (it wasn't for sale)
The CD 30's I see on the market are over my price range.
What I liked about the 30 was the headroom and size of the settee area (as well as everything else about the boat!).

what is the difference between the 28 and the 30?



jamelia@attcanada.ca

[Neil Gordon]

>>what is the difference between the 28 and the 30?<<

In an earlier thread, there was a curious question and discussion of where the extra 2' was to be found. As I recall, the size of the cockpit and the main cabin are about the same on both. That suggests that the head/hanging locker gets some of the extra, the v-berth gets some, etc.

On a more practical basis... what are your plans for the boat? How many people cruising for how long? Etc? Either boat will take you safely from here to there.

I've had my 28 for seven years and find it a comfortable cruiser for two of us plus our chocolate lab. We've taken trips of a week or more. I'd rather have the space of a larger boat, but aside from really liking the 28, she's paid for.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167



neil@nrgordon.com

[Dave Potts]

>>what is the difference between the 28 and the 30?<<

In an earlier thread, there was a curious question and discussion of where the extra 2' was to be found. As I recall, the size of the cockpit and the main cabin are about the same on both. That suggests that the head/hanging locker gets some of the extra, the v-berth gets some, etc.

Assuming the drawings in the owners manual are to scale, here is what I came up with for approximate comparison:<table border=1><tr><th>Dimension</th><th>CD28</th><th>CD30C</th></tr>
<tr><th>Aft Deck & Cockpit
(Stern to Start of Cabin Roof)</th><th> ~7.8'</th><th>~8.4'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Elevated Cabin Roof</th><th>~14'</th><th>~15.2'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Fore Deck</th><th>~6.3'</th><th>~6.6'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Total (L.O.A)</th><th>~28.1'</th><th>~30.2'</th></tr></table>

So about .6' (~7") more in CD30 aft deck/cockpit, about 1.2' (~14") more in cabin roof and about .3' (~4") in the foredeck. It appears to me that the 7" aft deck/cockpit difference is in the cockpit, that is, the CD30 has about 7" more length in the cockpit (width seems to be about the same). Of the 14" in the cabin roof, about 9" goes into the salon (main cabin) area and the other 5" goes into the V-berth area. The V-berths, head, and salon settee berths seem to be the same size. The 5" extra cabin roof in the CD30 V-berth translates to an extended area with higher roof in the CD30 (that is, both CD28 and CD30 have V-berth length of about 6'1", but only 3' 1" of that is under the elevated cabin roof in the CD28, while about 3' 6" is under the cabin roof for the CD30). The extra 9" in the salon is all in the galley area, allowing the inclusion of the stove/oven on the port side and generally enhanced storage (drawers and a deep dry goods bin to starboard, larger storage bins behind sliding doors on both sides). Forward of the V-berth, the CD30 has about 8" more in her anchor well.

Again, this is all estimated from the drawings - I haven't gotten out the tape measure to confirm any of it.

FWIW,

Dave
1982 CD30C Andronikos
Falmouth, ME



david.potts@fairchildsemi.com

[Joe Sankey]

>>what is the difference between the 28 and the 30?<<

In an earlier thread, there was a curious question and discussion of where the extra 2' was to be found. As I recall, the size of the cockpit and the main cabin are about the same on both. That suggests that the head/hanging locker gets some of the extra, the v-berth gets some, etc.

Assuming the drawings in the owners manual are to scale, here is what I came up with for approximate comparison:<table border=1><tr><th>Dimension</th><th>CD28</th><th>CD30C</th></tr>
<tr><th>Aft Deck & Cockpit
(Stern to Start of Cabin Roof)</th><th> ~7.8'</th><th>~8.4'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Elevated Cabin Roof</th><th>~14'</th><th>~15.2'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Fore Deck</th><th>~6.3'</th><th>~6.6'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Total (L.O.A)</th><th>~28.1'</th><th>~30.2'</th></tr></table>

So about .6' (~7") more in CD30 aft deck/cockpit, about 1.2' (~14") more in cabin roof and about .3' (~4") in the foredeck. It appears to me that the 7" aft deck/cockpit difference is in the cockpit, that is, the CD30 has about 7" more length in the cockpit (width seems to be about the same). Of the 14" in the cabin roof, about 9" goes into the salon (main cabin) area and the other 5" goes into the V-berth area. The V-berths, head, and salon settee berths seem to be the same size. The 5" extra cabin roof in the CD30 V-berth translates to an extended area with higher roof in the CD30 (that is, both CD28 and CD30 have V-berth length of about 6'1", but only 3' 1" of that is under the elevated cabin roof in the CD28, while about 3' 6" is under the cabin roof for the CD30). The extra 9" in the salon is all in the galley area, allowing the inclusion of the stove/oven on the port side and generally enhanced storage (drawers and a deep dry goods bin to starboard, larger storage bins behind sliding doors on both sides). Forward of the V-berth, the CD30 has about 8" more in her anchor well.

Again, this is all estimated from the drawings - I haven't gotten out the tape measure to confirm any of it.

FWIW,

Dave
1982 CD30C Andronikos
Falmouth, ME

As it happens, I have measured the 28 and 30 cockpits, and they are identical. The additional few inches there is all on the aft section; overhang. One other difference FWIW is that the engine relative to the cockpit is further forward in the 30; that is, if both boats have tillers the 28 tiller is located further forward in the cockpit sole. I am aware of this only because our previous 28 had a cockpit hatch that was great for getting to the engine, trans, and stuffing box. On the 30, particularly with wheel steering, it becomes less likely to help.
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance



sankey@gulftel.com

[Olli Wendelin]

Joe,

When your in love, your in love.

A few observations btwn the 28 and 30.

The same line drawing is used for the 28 and 30. For the 28 the bow and stern overhangs are shortened. Being heavier (1000 lbs) and longer, the CD30 rides the waves smoother.

Tiller (CD28) is better if you install self steering. Wheel & worm gear steering (CD30) lets the boat sail itself, if you have a tiller you must hold it or tie it off.

The 28 has a 2 burner cook top. The 30 has a gimbled stove and oven. If you cook while heeled over sailing, you need a gimbled stove. If you cook pizza you need an oven.

The 30 had alot of changes during its manufacturing run. Sail rig, engines, cabin layout.

Prices vary greatly with age, condition, and location. Don't be afraid to buy a few states away for a much better price. Also asking price is not selling price, I bought my boat for >25% below asking price.

Good Luck,

Olli Wendelin
BLUE MOON
CD30 Ketch
Charleston, SC



wendelin@spawar.navy.mil

[Joe Amelia]

>>what is the difference between the 28 and the 30?<<

In an earlier thread, there was a curious question and discussion of where the extra 2' was to be found. As I recall, the size of the cockpit and the main cabin are about the same on both. That suggests that the head/hanging locker gets some of the extra, the v-berth gets some, etc.

On a more practical basis... what are your plans for the boat? How many people cruising for how long? Etc? Either boat will take you safely from here to there.

I bought a 23' Grampian and have been sailing it for two years. This year we have been all over the Northumberland Strait, sailing for up to a week at a time.

We plan to start living aboard in four more years, and sailing south for a six month stretch, then deciding on what we want to do from there. (Depending on how we actually like it!).
We're budgeting (cheaply)for 5 years, after that, we'll see.

There is only two of us, and we did look closely at a Triton, (28') and decided it was definetely too small, and had started to look at 34- 36 footers. Then we saw the CD 30, and it was exactly what we were looking for, however, if the 28 is close to it, and cheaper (yep, I HAVE to worry about money), then I want to look at that.

meanwhile, I am open to suggestions.

I've had my 28 for seven years and find it a comfortable cruiser for two of us plus our chocolate lab. We've taken trips of a week or more. I'd rather have the space of a larger boat, but aside from really liking the 28, she's paid for.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167

jamelia@attcanada.ca

[Joe Sankey]

Correction. I mispoke. The tiller in the 30 is further forward than in the 28. My apologies.
Joe Sankey

>>what is the difference between the 28 and the 30?<<

In an earlier thread, there was a curious question and discussion of where the extra 2' was to be found. As I recall, the size of the cockpit and the main cabin are about the same on both. That suggests that the head/hanging locker gets some of the extra, the v-berth gets some, etc.

Assuming the drawings in the owners manual are to scale, here is what I came up with for approximate comparison:<table border=1><tr><th>Dimension</th><th>CD28</th><th>CD30C</th></tr>
<tr><th>Aft Deck & Cockpit
(Stern to Start of Cabin Roof)</th><th> ~7.8'</th><th>~8.4'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Elevated Cabin Roof</th><th>~14'</th><th>~15.2'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Fore Deck</th><th>~6.3'</th><th>~6.6'</th></tr>
<tr><th>Total (L.O.A)</th><th>~28.1'</th><th>~30.2'</th></tr></table>

So about .6' (~7") more in CD30 aft deck/cockpit, about 1.2' (~14") more in cabin roof and about .3' (~4") in the foredeck. It appears to me that the 7" aft deck/cockpit difference is in the cockpit, that is, the CD30 has about 7" more length in the cockpit (width seems to be about the same). Of the 14" in the cabin roof, about 9" goes into the salon (main cabin) area and the other 5" goes into the V-berth area. The V-berths, head, and salon settee berths seem to be the same size. The 5" extra cabin roof in the CD30 V-berth translates to an extended area with higher roof in the CD30 (that is, both CD28 and CD30 have V-berth length of about 6'1", but only 3' 1" of that is under the elevated cabin roof in the CD28, while about 3' 6" is under the cabin roof for the CD30). The extra 9" in the salon is all in the galley area, allowing the inclusion of the stove/oven on the port side and generally enhanced storage (drawers and a deep dry goods bin to starboard, larger storage bins behind sliding doors on both sides). Forward of the V-berth, the CD30 has about 8" more in her anchor well.

Again, this is all estimated from the drawings - I haven't gotten out the tape measure to confirm any of it.

FWIW,

Dave
1982 CD30C Andronikos
Falmouth, ME

As it happens, I have measured the 28 and 30 cockpits, and they are identical. The additional few inches there is all on the aft section; overhang. One other difference FWIW is that the engine relative to the cockpit is further forward in the 30; that is, if both boats have tillers the 28 tiller is located further forward in the cockpit sole. I am aware of this only because our previous 28 had a cockpit hatch that was great for getting to the engine, trans, and stuffing box. On the 30, particularly with wheel steering, it becomes less likely to help.
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance

sankey@gulftel.com

[Stan W.]

Not as much difference as you might think. Settees and head are quite similar. Most noticeable difference below-decks probably is in the galley area. The 30 has an oven and more room to work in general. I think the oven would be fairly key if you are going to live aboard. Maybe someone has retrofitted an oven in a 28?

NONSLY
CD28 #225



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