Downsizing: Opinions requested on a Typhoon Weekender

[Craig Cook]

Hello everyone. I posted a similar request on the Sailnet CD list and was referred over here by one of the very friendly folks there. My wife and I are downsizing our boat and slip. Max LOA in the new slip is 18'11". We have narrowed our list of prospects down to 4 boats that seem to be readily available and in our new price range ($5K). We sail out of Erie, PA in Presque Isle Bay and on Lake Erie. The changing conditions and square Lake Erie waves are a factor. We spend an occasional night on board, but usually daysail, I'm 6'1, 235lbs, wife is 5'4".
List includes the CD Typhoon, traditional, narrow beam, full keel. The Capri/Catalina 18, 7'7" beam, 1500lbs displacement, more modern look, wing keel. Hunter 18.5, 7'1" beam, 1600 lb displacement, similar in looks to C18, and the O'Day 192, 7'1" beam, 1400lbs, a little more teak, but still similar in looks to the Cat and Hunter.
Obviously the CD sticks out in this crowd, but I have heard so many great things about Cape Dorys, and we really like the traditional look. My concerns are the narrow beam and sailing characteristics, as well as accomodations below. We are willing to trade off some beam if what we get in return is a Lake Erie boat that will handle the waves and weather. I have heard varied opinions on the sailing characteristics of the Typhoon.
Any and all opinions would be welcome.
Thanks. Craig & Connie Cook



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[Serge Zimberoff]

With obvious prejudice the Typhoon is the correct choice. Bottom line is that you can 'overnight', but in VERY close quarters. Good weather/no bugs we sleep in the cockpit as there is a lot of room there. Sailing characteristics...sailed one on Lake Superior for 10 summers. Last 7 years ours has been on the water year round on an inland lake with truly every which wind. Probably takes spray over the bow sooner than others with higher freeboard but it will never feel out of your control. We leave the main all the way up until the wind is really whistling in the rigging and the lee rail is just under, then we do put in a reef (or two). If you find one that is already converted to jiffy reefing you will save minor work in changing and be ready for Lake Erie.
IMHO of course!
Serge
Ty 1700 'Cloning Around'
PS...a month ago as I headed out of shelter behind a lee with a double reef already set, a Capri motored in with sails still furled and hollered across '...you're braver than I am.' It was a wet but fun sail 4 miles upwind and really sledded coming back down wind.



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[Mike Wainfeld]

I'll second Serge's comments. Very srong, seaworthy, (and pretty) little boat, but the ride can get wet, and not too much room down below. An excellent day sailor that can hold her own when the wind picks up.
Mike Wainfeld
CD Ty "Regalo"



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[Chris Bell]

Craig,
the typhoon is probably one of the best buys in boating today. with the full keel, real ballast, and narrow beam they'll handle the weather and conditions you have on Lake Erie nicely. As for the investment value, these are probably the most enduring of the entire CD line, and not without good reason. many builders of far larger boats would do well to emulate the quality that went into building these boats. also, you won't find a support group like this one any where else in the world. if owners didn't love these things as they do this assn wouldn't be what it is today.
I personally like the ty daysailor, as I don't really take trips on it and I like the big deep cockpit better than the weekender setup. I also like the fact that the mast is stepped on the keel rather than the cabintop. the big drawback is no privacy for ladies using the portapotti.
Chris

Hello everyone. I posted a similar request on the Sailnet CD list and was referred over here by one of the very friendly folks there. My wife and I are downsizing our boat and slip. Max LOA in the new slip is 18'11". We have narrowed our list of prospects down to 4 boats that seem to be readily available and in our new price range ($5K). We sail out of Erie, PA in Presque Isle Bay and on Lake Erie. The changing conditions and square Lake Erie waves are a factor. We spend an occasional night on board, but usually daysail, I'm 6'1, 235lbs, wife is 5'4".
List includes the CD Typhoon, traditional, narrow beam, full keel. The Capri/Catalina 18, 7'7" beam, 1500lbs displacement, more modern look, wing keel. Hunter 18.5, 7'1" beam, 1600 lb displacement, similar in looks to C18, and the O'Day 192, 7'1" beam, 1400lbs, a little more teak, but still similar in looks to the Cat and Hunter.
Obviously the CD sticks out in this crowd, but I have heard so many great things about Cape Dorys, and we really like the traditional look. My concerns are the narrow beam and sailing characteristics, as well as accomodations below. We are willing to trade off some beam if what we get in return is a Lake Erie boat that will handle the waves and weather. I have heard varied opinions on the sailing characteristics of the Typhoon.
Any and all opinions would be welcome.
Thanks. Craig & Connie Cook

rchrisbell@hotmail.com

[Craig Cook]

After spending the better part of the day talking with CD owners and researching on the web, I'm a bit confused. Am I correct in that Typhoons have neither a pulpit or pushpit and no lifelines?



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[Bob B.]

Craig and Connie,
I had a Typhoon for about six years and really loved it. Most of it was sailing on the Outer Banks of NC. Like the others said, we were sailing while the others were watching from the shore. Our boat could handle the wind very well as others were turning back because their boat was too uncomfortable in the winds. You will be surprised in that your sailing time will increase with the smaller boat.

As to pulpit or pushpit, ours was hull #73 and did not have life lines or either rail. No one ever fell off of her while I was sailing in that we were a little conservative with heading out with the working jib if it looked border line between genoa and working jib. I also rigged a downhaul so that I could drop the jib from the cockpit and work from there. Reefing of the main is all done from the cockpit so no problem.

For the value, I don't think you could go wrong.

Bob B.
CD25D
Charleston, SC



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[Joel]

My Ty came with a pulpit, which I've since removed. She looks alot better without, it seemed to overwhelm in a way that doesn't happen with larger boats. No pushpit (whatever that is) nor lifelines. She's small enough that when going forward, one can hang onto the shrouds from the cockpit and swing to the forestay. The pulpit did add some security, but since adding roller furling, we're not up there much at all. Even though they may sail like a larger boat, they ARE small.

Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty #549 (still for sale)
Bayside, NY



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[dane, Mariah Ty]

Hello everyone. I posted a similar request on the Sailnet CD list and was referred over here by one of the very friendly folks there. My wife and I are downsizing our boat and slip. Max LOA in the new slip is 18'11". We have narrowed our list of prospects down to 4 boats that seem to be readily available and in our new price range ($5K). We sail out of Erie, PA in Presque Isle Bay and on Lake Erie. The changing conditions and square Lake Erie waves are a factor. We spend an occasional night on board, but usually daysail, I'm 6'1, 235lbs, wife is 5'4".
List includes the CD Typhoon, traditional, narrow beam, full keel. The Capri/Catalina 18, 7'7" beam, 1500lbs displacement, more modern look, wing keel. Hunter 18.5, 7'1" beam, 1600 lb displacement, similar in looks to C18, and the O'Day 192, 7'1" beam, 1400lbs, a little more teak, but still similar in looks to the Cat and Hunter.
Obviously the CD sticks out in this crowd, but I have heard so many great things about Cape Dorys, and we really like the traditional look. My concerns are the narrow beam and sailing characteristics, as well as accomodations below. We are willing to trade off some beam if what we get in return is a Lake Erie boat that will handle the waves and weather. I have heard varied opinions on the sailing characteristics of the Typhoon.
Any and all opinions would be welcome.
Thanks. Craig & Connie Cook

For pure old fashioned great small keelboat sailing, nothing beats a Typhoon. As for overnight accomodations, think puptent. Not even sitting headroom. Plan to camp out under a boom tent.
Cheers,
Dane



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