Hi,
I was painting my A22 (i know it's not a CD but...You are the bests) and at some places the paint did not stick up, i do'nt know why because i dewax and use 2 times the tiners for removing the dust. I was @#$# because i put so much time for preparing the paint job.
I think i found why i got this problem. I use tack cloth just before painting and maybe the cloth leave some resin on the deck. Do you think it's the good reason?
Marc
A22 #275
adrenaline@vif.com
Problem with paint "Pettit"
Moderator: Jim Walsh
PrepSol
It didn't stick for one of two reasons:
1) Lack of tooth due to insufficient abrasion of the underlying surface.
2)Surface contamination of the underlying surface as a result of improper prep.
Or it could have been a combination of the two.
If you used a commercially made tack rag and not a home made version the chances are next to nil it caused the problem. To prevent these type of painting problems use a top quality prep solvent specifically formulated for use in painting prep work. I always use Dupont PrepSol, nothing else. It easily removes all contaminants and waxes and leaves the surface spotless. Next,lightly wipe down the surface with a quality commercial tack rag just prior to applying your first finish coat.
Acetone, alcohol, laquer thinner and other basic solvents don't work as well as true prep formulas. There are other brands of prep formulas on the market besides the Dupont. Most major paint finish manufacturers offer a prep formula in their product line up. I've used the Dupont with all sorts of different paint systems and never had any compatibility or contamination problems. I highly recommend that product for paint work. Dupont PrepSol is available at most automotive paint suppliers/distributors that deal with Dupont products.
Sorry to hear about your problem, it is very disappointing and frustrating when a new paint finish develops problems. Follow all prep instructions to the letter, the resulting finish is no better than the care excercised in the prep work.
You didn't experience a Petit problem. Good luck on the redo.
1) Lack of tooth due to insufficient abrasion of the underlying surface.
2)Surface contamination of the underlying surface as a result of improper prep.
Or it could have been a combination of the two.
If you used a commercially made tack rag and not a home made version the chances are next to nil it caused the problem. To prevent these type of painting problems use a top quality prep solvent specifically formulated for use in painting prep work. I always use Dupont PrepSol, nothing else. It easily removes all contaminants and waxes and leaves the surface spotless. Next,lightly wipe down the surface with a quality commercial tack rag just prior to applying your first finish coat.
Acetone, alcohol, laquer thinner and other basic solvents don't work as well as true prep formulas. There are other brands of prep formulas on the market besides the Dupont. Most major paint finish manufacturers offer a prep formula in their product line up. I've used the Dupont with all sorts of different paint systems and never had any compatibility or contamination problems. I highly recommend that product for paint work. Dupont PrepSol is available at most automotive paint suppliers/distributors that deal with Dupont products.
Sorry to hear about your problem, it is very disappointing and frustrating when a new paint finish develops problems. Follow all prep instructions to the letter, the resulting finish is no better than the care excercised in the prep work.
You didn't experience a Petit problem. Good luck on the redo.
Marc wrote: Hi,
I was painting my A22 (i know it's not a CD but...You are the bests) and at some places the paint did not stick up, i do'nt know why because i dewax and use 2 times the tiners for removing the dust. I was @#$# because i put so much time for preparing the paint job.
I think i found why i got this problem. I use tack cloth just before painting and maybe the cloth leave some resin on the deck. Do you think it's the good reason?
Marc
A22 #275
Re: PrepSol
I agree with everything John says and would add that I start every paint job with a thourough wash with a strong solution of TSP and Bleach. Rinse will and then sand and solvent wash. I have never used PrepSol but it sounds great.
Never use mineral spirits on plastic or fiberglass. It leaves an oily film that prevents adhesion.
Boyd
s/v Tern
Cd30 MkII
Fort Lauderdale, Fla
boyd@wbta.cc
Never use mineral spirits on plastic or fiberglass. It leaves an oily film that prevents adhesion.
Boyd
s/v Tern
Cd30 MkII
Fort Lauderdale, Fla
John R. wrote: It didn't stick for one of two reasons:
1) Lack of tooth due to insufficient abrasion of the underlying surface.
2)Surface contamination of the underlying surface as a result of improper prep.
Or it could have been a combination of the two.
If you used a commercially made tack rag and not a home made version the chances are next to nil it caused the problem. To prevent these type of painting problems use a top quality prep solvent specifically formulated for use in painting prep work. I always use Dupont PrepSol, nothing else. It easily removes all contaminants and waxes and leaves the surface spotless. Next,lightly wipe down the surface with a quality commercial tack rag just prior to applying your first finish coat.
Acetone, alcohol, laquer thinner and other basic solvents don't work as well as true prep formulas. There are other brands of prep formulas on the market besides the Dupont. Most major paint finish manufacturers offer a prep formula in their product line up. I've used the Dupont with all sorts of different paint systems and never had any compatibility or contamination problems. I highly recommend that product for paint work. Dupont PrepSol is available at most automotive paint suppliers/distributors that deal with Dupont products.
Sorry to hear about your problem, it is very disappointing and frustrating when a new paint finish develops problems. Follow all prep instructions to the letter, the resulting finish is no better than the care excercised in the prep work.
You didn't experience a Petit problem. Good luck on the redo.
Marc wrote: Hi,
I was painting my A22 (i know it's not a CD but...You are the bests) and at some places the paint did not stick up, i do'nt know why because i dewax and use 2 times the tiners for removing the dust. I was @#$# because i put so much time for preparing the paint job.
I think i found why i got this problem. I use tack cloth just before painting and maybe the cloth leave some resin on the deck. Do you think it's the good reason?
Marc
A22 #275
boyd@wbta.cc
Thank's............It's a great board because you are great
Thank's for your help, i want to put a good word for Jim Leininger who,many times, send me an email for explaining how to upgrade my works.
This board and your knowledge, is a perfect match.
Today i receive my ports holes from New Founds Metal, i must tell you this: They are magnificients. It's incredible but Pamela of NFM send me emails and speak with me in french, she's a great, their service is great, i think i fall in love ha! ha!
Thank's all
Marc
Alberg 22
adrenaline@vif.com
This board and your knowledge, is a perfect match.
Today i receive my ports holes from New Founds Metal, i must tell you this: They are magnificients. It's incredible but Pamela of NFM send me emails and speak with me in french, she's a great, their service is great, i think i fall in love ha! ha!
Thank's all
Marc
Alberg 22
Boyd wrote: I agree with everything John says and would add that I start every paint job with a thourough wash with a strong solution of TSP and Bleach. Rinse will and then sand and solvent wash. I have never used PrepSol but it sounds great.
Never use mineral spirits on plastic or fiberglass. It leaves an oily film that prevents adhesion.
Boyd
s/v Tern
Cd30 MkII
Fort Lauderdale, Fla
John R. wrote: It didn't stick for one of two reasons:
1) Lack of tooth due to insufficient abrasion of the underlying surface.
2)Surface contamination of the underlying surface as a result of improper prep.
Or it could have been a combination of the two.
If you used a commercially made tack rag and not a home made version the chances are next to nil it caused the problem. To prevent these type of painting problems use a top quality prep solvent specifically formulated for use in painting prep work. I always use Dupont PrepSol, nothing else. It easily removes all contaminants and waxes and leaves the surface spotless. Next,lightly wipe down the surface with a quality commercial tack rag just prior to applying your first finish coat.
Acetone, alcohol, laquer thinner and other basic solvents don't work as well as true prep formulas. There are other brands of prep formulas on the market besides the Dupont. Most major paint finish manufacturers offer a prep formula in their product line up. I've used the Dupont with all sorts of different paint systems and never had any compatibility or contamination problems. I highly recommend that product for paint work. Dupont PrepSol is available at most automotive paint suppliers/distributors that deal with Dupont products.
Sorry to hear about your problem, it is very disappointing and frustrating when a new paint finish develops problems. Follow all prep instructions to the letter, the resulting finish is no better than the care excercised in the prep work.
You didn't experience a Petit problem. Good luck on the redo.
Marc wrote: Hi,
I was painting my A22 (i know it's not a CD but...You are the bests) and at some places the paint did not stick up, i do'nt know why because i dewax and use 2 times the tiners for removing the dust. I was @#$# because i put so much time for preparing the paint job.
I think i found why i got this problem. I use tack cloth just before painting and maybe the cloth leave some resin on the deck. Do you think it's the good reason?
Marc
A22 #275
adrenaline@vif.com
Thank You - got some pictures?
I do not know anything about A22's. I'm sure we would all like a look. It's really the Alberg universe.
Bill
mmmmmmbill@earthlink.net
Bill
mmmmmmbill@earthlink.net