CD 30 cutter sail area, etc.

[Joe Sankey]

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL



sankey@gulftel.com

[John R.]

Joe,

I don't particularly know what a sloop rig equivalent sail area would be to the cutter's staysail/yankee combo on a CD30. If you sat down with a calculator you could figure it out. As you know sail selection is a personal matter like choosing the right shoes for a particular need. Not the best metaphor in the world but you certainly get the idea of what I'm saying. Many people prefer a cutter rig simply because of its versatility and ease of handling. I think it may even point better. A sloop on the other hand has less complexity but at the same time minimal versatility, especially if it is a roller furled rig with a single luff slot. Then you have to consider a sloop masthead or fractional rig. Masthead sloop rigs evolved from racing and they offer the advantage of no running backstays to have to deal with. With that said the fractional rig allows for smaller headsails and ease of handling them. That rig puts more emphasis on the mainsail (fractional rig) over the headsail on a masthead rig. In other words, if and when it comes time to shorten sail would you rather deal with the main on a fractional sloop rig or a big headsail on a masthead sloop rig up on the foredeck?!

Personally I have never understood why the CD30 cutter rig doesn't have running backstays especially considering people rely on the babystay for rigging a stormsail. Even the deck fitting for that stay is not reinforced well to accomodate such loads in my opinion.

If I were you I would determine the ratio of effectiveness between the yankee and staysail on different points of sail with your boat in your sailing conditions. At the same time I would think about the complexity and ease of sailing with any particular headsail on a given point of sail. Keep a log of performance experienced. Go to a good reputable sailmaker with your staysail and yankee sail area and discuss your results. Get their feedback on how the performance you acheived with your cutter rig would compare to a sloop coversion or to options you could adopt to your cutter rig. They will be able to tell you what the expected difference would be.Then you can make an informed comparison as to cost/performance effectiveness for your boat in your conditions sailed by you.

I've never sailed a CD30 with a sloop rig aside from just sailing under a jenny alone with staysail furled (sort of a sloop). In such light air I find the jenny flies better without the staysail drawing. Some say the staysail helps with slotting the air but I have never really noticed a big difference in light air so I usually furl it. Down here in Florida the yankee is usually bagged because we are in such light air the majority of the time. I use a 150 UK jenny and the staysail. During some breezy winter months I have removed the jenny and hung the yankee. The great thing I love about the yankee is the visibility gained. This is another distinct advantage over a sloop rig. I would think in Alabama you are in light air the majority of the time as well. I would say your 120 would be slightly marginal in typical southern light airs, certainly usable though, I would keep it in inventory. If conditions pipe up while out and the jenny is rigged then the jenny is just furled to a degree or completely and then continue sailing under staysail only. This is what I mean by *versatility*. It really is advantageous, and that is only one advantage. During piped up breezes the staysail certainly has it's big benefits in keeping the boat well balanced without having to reef the main early as you would need to do in a sloop rig.

A jib on a sloop is easier to deal with (less) complexity but those that run the cutter staysail with the self tending club basically have just as easy of a boat to sail. The problem is the narrow foredeck on the 30 with the club footed staysail. There is just not much room for it and I found it to be a burden so removed the club to clean things up a little. If you don't mind the staysail club you will find the CD30 sails just as easily as a sloop. Some people have difficulty tacking a jenny through the slot between the babystay and the headstay and like I said I use the 150 and 90% of the time it tacks through just fine if I back wind it before sheeting it over.

I don't know if I've been much if any help with your questions but generally speaking it is my preference to go with the cutter rig over the sloop rig. Versatility and ease of handling is the reason!

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

[Joe Sankey]

John R., Thanks. I was under the impression from your response to Will's last post that you had removed the staysail. I now understand you just removed the boom. I am in have done/am doing the things you suggested. I suspect your sailing area and mine have much in common in terms of wind velocity, etc. and assumed (incorrectly) you sailed as a sloop. Frankly, with hand ons the biggest problem with the cutter is the complicated foredeck, etc. The payoff comes in comfort and simplicity when under staysail alone, as last weekend we sailed in mid to upper teens with reefed main and staysail; 5.5 knots on a reach for a couple hours. Nice day. Roller furling/reefing was my original aim; we did that on our CD 28. Thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it all turns out. By the way, did you modify anything to do without the staysail boom, or simply rig the block to the clew?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

Joe,

I don't particularly know what a sloop rig equivalent sail area would be to the cutter's staysail/yankee combo on a CD30. If you sat down with a calculator you could figure it out. As you know sail selection is a personal matter like choosing the right shoes for a particular need. Not the best metaphor in the world but you certainly get the idea of what I'm saying. Many people prefer a cutter rig simply because of its versatility and ease of handling. I think it may even point better. A sloop on the other hand has less complexity but at the same time minimal versatility, especially if it is a roller furled rig with a single luff slot. Then you have to consider a sloop masthead or fractional rig. Masthead sloop rigs evolved from racing and they offer the advantage of no running backstays to have to deal with. With that said the fractional rig allows for smaller headsails and ease of handling them. That rig puts more emphasis on the mainsail (fractional rig) over the headsail on a masthead rig. In other words, if and when it comes time to shorten sail would you rather deal with the main on a fractional sloop rig or a big headsail on a masthead sloop rig up on the foredeck?!

Personally I have never understood why the CD30 cutter rig doesn't have running backstays especially considering people rely on the babystay for rigging a stormsail. Even the deck fitting for that stay is not reinforced well to accomodate such loads in my opinion.

If I were you I would determine the ratio of effectiveness between the yankee and staysail on different points of sail with your boat in your sailing conditions. At the same time I would think about the complexity and ease of sailing with any particular headsail on a given point of sail. Keep a log of performance experienced. Go to a good reputable sailmaker with your staysail and yankee sail area and discuss your results. Get their feedback on how the performance you acheived with your cutter rig would compare to a sloop coversion or to options you could adopt to your cutter rig. They will be able to tell you what the expected difference would be.Then you can make an informed comparison as to cost/performance effectiveness for your boat in your conditions sailed by you.

I've never sailed a CD30 with a sloop rig aside from just sailing under a jenny alone with staysail furled (sort of a sloop). In such light air I find the jenny flies better without the staysail drawing. Some say the staysail helps with slotting the air but I have never really noticed a big difference in light air so I usually furl it. Down here in Florida the yankee is usually bagged because we are in such light air the majority of the time. I use a 150 UK jenny and the staysail. During some breezy winter months I have removed the jenny and hung the yankee. The great thing I love about the yankee is the visibility gained. This is another distinct advantage over a sloop rig. I would think in Alabama you are in light air the majority of the time as well. I would say your 120 would be slightly marginal in typical southern light airs, certainly usable though, I would keep it in inventory. If conditions pipe up while out and the jenny is rigged then the jenny is just furled to a degree or completely and then continue sailing under staysail only. This is what I mean by *versatility*. It really is advantageous, and that is only one advantage. During piped up breezes the staysail certainly has it's big benefits in keeping the boat well balanced without having to reef the main early as you would need to do in a sloop rig.

A jib on a sloop is easier to deal with (less) complexity but those that run the cutter staysail with the self tending club basically have just as easy of a boat to sail. The problem is the narrow foredeck on the 30 with the club footed staysail. There is just not much room for it and I found it to be a burden so removed the club to clean things up a little. If you don't mind the staysail club you will find the CD30 sails just as easily as a sloop. Some people have difficulty tacking a jenny through the slot between the babystay and the headstay and like I said I use the 150 and 90% of the time it tacks through just fine if I back wind it before sheeting it over.

I don't know if I've been much if any help with your questions but generally speaking it is my preference to go with the cutter rig over the sloop rig. Versatility and ease of handling is the reason!

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

sankey@gulftel.com

[John R.]

Joe,

As per the Harken clubless setup. See link below.


I've never sailed a CD30 as a true sloop, only as a sort of hybrid (cutter with just jenny and main, staysail furled).

John R., Thanks. I was under the impression from your response to Will's last post that you had removed the staysail. I now understand you just removed the boom. I am in have done/am doing the things you suggested. I suspect your sailing area and mine have much in common in terms of wind velocity, etc. and assumed (incorrectly) you sailed as a sloop. Frankly, with hand ons the biggest problem with the cutter is the complicated foredeck, etc. The payoff comes in comfort and simplicity when under staysail alone, as last weekend we sailed in mid to upper teens with reefed main and staysail; 5.5 knots on a reach for a couple hours. Nice day. Roller furling/reefing was my original aim; we did that on our CD 28. Thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it all turns out. By the way, did you modify anything to do without the staysail boom, or simply rig the block to the clew?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

Joe,

I don't particularly know what a sloop rig equivalent sail area would be to the cutter's staysail/yankee combo on a CD30. If you sat down with a calculator you could figure it out. As you know sail selection is a personal matter like choosing the right shoes for a particular need. Not the best metaphor in the world but you certainly get the idea of what I'm saying. Many people prefer a cutter rig simply because of its versatility and ease of handling. I think it may even point better. A sloop on the other hand has less complexity but at the same time minimal versatility, especially if it is a roller furled rig with a single luff slot. Then you have to consider a sloop masthead or fractional rig. Masthead sloop rigs evolved from racing and they offer the advantage of no running backstays to have to deal with. With that said the fractional rig allows for smaller headsails and ease of handling them. That rig puts more emphasis on the mainsail (fractional rig) over the headsail on a masthead rig. In other words, if and when it comes time to shorten sail would you rather deal with the main on a fractional sloop rig or a big headsail on a masthead sloop rig up on the foredeck?!

Personally I have never understood why the CD30 cutter rig doesn't have running backstays especially considering people rely on the babystay for rigging a stormsail. Even the deck fitting for that stay is not reinforced well to accomodate such loads in my opinion.

If I were you I would determine the ratio of effectiveness between the yankee and staysail on different points of sail with your boat in your sailing conditions. At the same time I would think about the complexity and ease of sailing with any particular headsail on a given point of sail. Keep a log of performance experienced. Go to a good reputable sailmaker with your staysail and yankee sail area and discuss your results. Get their feedback on how the performance you acheived with your cutter rig would compare to a sloop coversion or to options you could adopt to your cutter rig. They will be able to tell you what the expected difference would be.Then you can make an informed comparison as to cost/performance effectiveness for your boat in your conditions sailed by you.

I've never sailed a CD30 with a sloop rig aside from just sailing under a jenny alone with staysail furled (sort of a sloop). In such light air I find the jenny flies better without the staysail drawing. Some say the staysail helps with slotting the air but I have never really noticed a big difference in light air so I usually furl it. Down here in Florida the yankee is usually bagged because we are in such light air the majority of the time. I use a 150 UK jenny and the staysail. During some breezy winter months I have removed the jenny and hung the yankee. The great thing I love about the yankee is the visibility gained. This is another distinct advantage over a sloop rig. I would think in Alabama you are in light air the majority of the time as well. I would say your 120 would be slightly marginal in typical southern light airs, certainly usable though, I would keep it in inventory. If conditions pipe up while out and the jenny is rigged then the jenny is just furled to a degree or completely and then continue sailing under staysail only. This is what I mean by *versatility*. It really is advantageous, and that is only one advantage. During piped up breezes the staysail certainly has it's big benefits in keeping the boat well balanced without having to reef the main early as you would need to do in a sloop rig.

A jib on a sloop is easier to deal with (less) complexity but those that run the cutter staysail with the self tending club basically have just as easy of a boat to sail. The problem is the narrow foredeck on the 30 with the club footed staysail. There is just not much room for it and I found it to be a burden so removed the club to clean things up a little. If you don't mind the staysail club you will find the CD30 sails just as easily as a sloop. Some people have difficulty tacking a jenny through the slot between the babystay and the headstay and like I said I use the 150 and 90% of the time it tacks through just fine if I back wind it before sheeting it over.

I don't know if I've been much if any help with your questions but generally speaking it is my preference to go with the cutter rig over the sloop rig. Versatility and ease of handling is the reason!

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

[Joe Sankey]

It's interesting. The first one I sailed was Dave Stump's brother's B model, when it was for sale 8-10 yrs ago. It had a 170 (as I recall him telling me then; it was large) on roller furling. Now Dave is a huge advocate of the cutter. That sail was largely responsible for doing away with the club boom on our 28 we bought soon after, to which we added a 155% on roller furling. Thanks for the link. I'll study it.

Joe,

As per the Harken clubless setup. See link below.


I've never sailed a CD30 as a true sloop, only as a sort of hybrid (cutter with just jenny and main, staysail furled).

John R., Thanks. I was under the impression from your response to Will's last post that you had removed the staysail. I now understand you just removed the boom. I am in have done/am doing the things you suggested. I suspect your sailing area and mine have much in common in terms of wind velocity, etc. and assumed (incorrectly) you sailed as a sloop. Frankly, with hand ons the biggest problem with the cutter is the complicated foredeck, etc. The payoff comes in comfort and simplicity when under staysail alone, as last weekend we sailed in mid to upper teens with reefed main and staysail; 5.5 knots on a reach for a couple hours. Nice day. Roller furling/reefing was my original aim; we did that on our CD 28. Thanks for your input. I'll let you know how it all turns out. By the way, did you modify anything to do without the staysail boom, or simply rig the block to the clew?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

Joe,

I don't particularly know what a sloop rig equivalent sail area would be to the cutter's staysail/yankee combo on a CD30. If you sat down with a calculator you could figure it out. As you know sail selection is a personal matter like choosing the right shoes for a particular need. Not the best metaphor in the world but you certainly get the idea of what I'm saying. Many people prefer a cutter rig simply because of its versatility and ease of handling. I think it may even point better. A sloop on the other hand has less complexity but at the same time minimal versatility, especially if it is a roller furled rig with a single luff slot. Then you have to consider a sloop masthead or fractional rig. Masthead sloop rigs evolved from racing and they offer the advantage of no running backstays to have to deal with. With that said the fractional rig allows for smaller headsails and ease of handling them. That rig puts more emphasis on the mainsail (fractional rig) over the headsail on a masthead rig. In other words, if and when it comes time to shorten sail would you rather deal with the main on a fractional sloop rig or a big headsail on a masthead sloop rig up on the foredeck?!

Personally I have never understood why the CD30 cutter rig doesn't have running backstays especially considering people rely on the babystay for rigging a stormsail. Even the deck fitting for that stay is not reinforced well to accomodate such loads in my opinion.

If I were you I would determine the ratio of effectiveness between the yankee and staysail on different points of sail with your boat in your sailing conditions. At the same time I would think about the complexity and ease of sailing with any particular headsail on a given point of sail. Keep a log of performance experienced. Go to a good reputable sailmaker with your staysail and yankee sail area and discuss your results. Get their feedback on how the performance you acheived with your cutter rig would compare to a sloop coversion or to options you could adopt to your cutter rig. They will be able to tell you what the expected difference would be.Then you can make an informed comparison as to cost/performance effectiveness for your boat in your conditions sailed by you.

I've never sailed a CD30 with a sloop rig aside from just sailing under a jenny alone with staysail furled (sort of a sloop). In such light air I find the jenny flies better without the staysail drawing. Some say the staysail helps with slotting the air but I have never really noticed a big difference in light air so I usually furl it. Down here in Florida the yankee is usually bagged because we are in such light air the majority of the time. I use a 150 UK jenny and the staysail. During some breezy winter months I have removed the jenny and hung the yankee. The great thing I love about the yankee is the visibility gained. This is another distinct advantage over a sloop rig. I would think in Alabama you are in light air the majority of the time as well. I would say your 120 would be slightly marginal in typical southern light airs, certainly usable though, I would keep it in inventory. If conditions pipe up while out and the jenny is rigged then the jenny is just furled to a degree or completely and then continue sailing under staysail only. This is what I mean by *versatility*. It really is advantageous, and that is only one advantage. During piped up breezes the staysail certainly has it's big benefits in keeping the boat well balanced without having to reef the main early as you would need to do in a sloop rig.

A jib on a sloop is easier to deal with (less) complexity but those that run the cutter staysail with the self tending club basically have just as easy of a boat to sail. The problem is the narrow foredeck on the 30 with the club footed staysail. There is just not much room for it and I found it to be a burden so removed the club to clean things up a little. If you don't mind the staysail club you will find the CD30 sails just as easily as a sloop. Some people have difficulty tacking a jenny through the slot between the babystay and the headstay and like I said I use the 150 and 90% of the time it tacks through just fine if I back wind it before sheeting it over.

I don't know if I've been much if any help with your questions but generally speaking it is my preference to go with the cutter rig over the sloop rig. Versatility and ease of handling is the reason!

sankey@gulftel.com

[will parker]

Joe,
I guess you know my conclusions about the staysail on a CD 30 from my Bermuda experience. However, I agree with John when he said that it may really be a matter of personal preference. I am convinced the stay sail brings nothing to the party on a broad reach or a beam reach. And certainly not on a run. Combined with a true Yankee, it would probably do well on a close reach. I have never sailed it with a Yankee. I have a 135% genoa with a high cut clew for visibility. I have got some great performance with that sail and no staysail. And not having to go through great effort to tack the genoa through the slot created by the inner forestay is nice. Whatever marginal help the staysail provides when going to weather is certainly offset by all the downsides otherwise. I do agree that it makes a nice storm sail, but I can also reef my roller furling genoa.
On the return trip from Bermuda, we were sailing in about 20-25 knots of wind under reefed main and staysail, when the mast fitting for the staysail halyard dropped off the mast. That was the end of the staysail for that trip.
I have decided to remove the inner forestay and boom, store it in my garage, and sail my boat like a sloop with my 135% genny.
Hope I have been responsive to your questions.
Will
"Jambalaya"

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

whildenp@earthlink.net

[Randy Bates]

It seems to me that the cutter rig was only useful back in the days BEFORE roller reefing. Back then you would strike the genoa and use the forestay to both reduce sail and move the center of effort inward. Today with the ability of a good roller reefing system they are nothing but a nice visual reminder of the past. And a great big pain to tack. They do look salty!

Joe,
I guess you know my conclusions about the staysail on a CD 30 from my Bermuda experience. However, I agree with John when he said that it may really be a matter of personal preference. I am convinced the stay sail brings nothing to the party on a broad reach or a beam reach. And certainly not on a run. Combined with a true Yankee, it would probably do well on a close reach. I have never sailed it with a Yankee. I have a 135% genoa with a high cut clew for visibility. I have got some great performance with that sail and no staysail. And not having to go through great effort to tack the genoa through the slot created by the inner forestay is nice. Whatever marginal help the staysail provides when going to weather is certainly offset by all the downsides otherwise. I do agree that it makes a nice storm sail, but I can also reef my roller furling genoa.
On the return trip from Bermuda, we were sailing in about 20-25 knots of wind under reefed main and staysail, when the mast fitting for the staysail halyard dropped off the mast. That was the end of the staysail for that trip.
I have decided to remove the inner forestay and boom, store it in my garage, and sail my boat like a sloop with my 135% genny.
Hope I have been responsive to your questions.
Will
"Jambalaya"

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

randy.bates@baesystems.com

[Joe Valinoti, Oriental, N]

When we acquired Slow Dance we committed to studying the cutter rig in our sailing and not making significant ($) decisions until we'd evaluated it ourselves. The last few weeks have given us great winds and a little time to do more sailing after spending a lot of time doing other work on her. I have searched the archives, and know comments have been made about sloop vs. cutter, and even stock sail equivalents. Of particular interest in all this has been input from those with reefing sequences, as we still have the original sails (plus a couple that were made then but lightly used); hank-ons. Is there a concensus as to the effective sail area (sloop equivalent?) of the cutter rig with yankee and staysail? Of Yankee alone? Of staysail alone? While I have my own experiences and potential prejudices, it would help me think about the future in a more meanful way, and it would help me evaluate the performance of our 120% genoa, and where/how it fits into any plans. John R.? Will?
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

I may have brought this up before but I have a CD30 cutter and removed the clubfoot,inner stay, removed the hanks and had a ultra low stretch boltrope installed in the luff of the staysail. I then installed a low stretch halyard and fly the staysail free using the original sheet and traveler arrangement. I intend to get a light 170 jib for my furler in addition to my yankee and 130. This gives me the option of having staysail cutter or a sloop. Works great!



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