Hi,
I'm thinking of getting a trailor for Allia, but am very clueless in this regard. Is it possible/practical to get a float-on type for a boat that size? If not, how much can I expect to pay a yard to haul/launch without storage. Any advice appreciated
Eric
owner S/V Allia
Manchester, MA
Trailor for a CD 25
Moderator: Jim Walsh
Re: Trailor for a CD 25
I don't know about floating on and off. I would think that the ramp pitch and tongue length of the trailer will be among the determining factors. I'm going to try floating Pokey off the trailer for the first time this year. I'm told they float 30 footers off the ramp at Bayside Marina all the time.
Last year I had a marina in College Point haul her, both in and out. They charged $6 per foot to dunk her, $7 per foot to raise her, including a power wash (useless). I always suspect NYC costs are higher than elsewhere.
Good luck,
Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
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Last year I had a marina in College Point haul her, both in and out. They charged $6 per foot to dunk her, $7 per foot to raise her, including a power wash (useless). I always suspect NYC costs are higher than elsewhere.
Good luck,
Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
bondy_joelNOSPAM@hotmail.com
Re: Trailor for a CD 25
In order to get the trailer far enough down the ramp w/o taking the tow vehicle for a dip, I connect the trailer to the tow vehicle with 15 feet of chain. This, of course means the trailer tongue must have good strong wheels in order to roll down the ramp. A helper keeps it running straight while I back down. If the ramp is a VERY shallow grade try 20 feet of chain. You get the picture.Joel wrote: I don't know about floating on and off. I would think that the ramp pitch and tongue length of the trailer will be among the determining factors. I'm going to try floating Pokey off the trailer for the first time this year. I'm told they float 30 footers off the ramp at Bayside Marina all the time.
Last year I had a marina in College Point haul her, both in and out. They charged $6 per foot to dunk her, $7 per foot to raise her, including a power wash (useless). I always suspect NYC costs are higher than elsewhere.
Good luck,
Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
randy.bates@baesystems.com
Re: Trailor for a CD 25
When I picked-up EOWYN down in Ft. Lauderdale, I was charged a little over $400 to lift her from the water and onto my trailer plus unstep the mast. When I got her here to New Bern,NC I was charged $150 to step the mast and lift her back into the water. Guess it just depends on where you are.
scottmacc@coastalnet.com
scottmacc@coastalnet.com
Re: Trailor for a CD 25
So much for my "NYC is more expensive" theory!
One difference is I step and unstep my Ty's mast myself (say that 3 times fast!).
Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
bondy_joelNOSPAM@hotmail.com
One difference is I step and unstep my Ty's mast myself (say that 3 times fast!).
Joel
Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
bondy_joelNOSPAM@hotmail.com
Re: Trailor for a CD 25
HELLOEric wrote: Hi,
I'm thinking of getting a trailor for Allia, but am very clueless in this regard. Is it possible/practical to get a float-on type for a boat that size? If not, how much can I expect to pay a yard to haul/launch without storage. Any advice appreciated
Eric
owner S/V Allia
Manchester, MA
I ALSO HAVE A CD25 AND AM THINKING OF GETTING A TRAILER. ANY IDEAS WHERE I CAN BUY ONE?, AND WHAT KIND OF TOW VEHICLE WOULD I NEED?
I ASSUME ILL NEED AT LEAST A POWERFUL PICKUP TRUCK. MY BOAT, "BRISAMAR" IS IN NEW BEDFORD, MA. I ALSO THOUGHT OF RENTING A TOW TRUCK TO HAVE THEM TOW THE TRAILER. ANY THOUGHTS?
wrmd@mybluelight.com
Floats off easily, on will be more difficult.....
I ramp launched Odyssey III with a tongue extension on the trailer. No problem at all. Before I pull her out, I'll set my trailer up the same way I did my Santana 20. You see, the problem is the trailer angle when recovering.....the bow fits nicely until you try to pull out. As the trailer comes up to meet the keel, the boat rocks back and winds up too far back on the trailer.
For my S20 I weighed the trailer (at the rear, with tongue on a jack stand). I used two large blocks of closed cell foam, in plywood boxes, bolted to the top rear of the trailer frame (each side). It's necessary to calculate the flotation of the tires, also, to include in the displacement (treat them as a pipe column, length equal to circumference). I set the trailer bouyancy about 60 lbs or so "heavy" (might have been a little less, don't recall). Use the appropriate cubic feet of floatation to almost lift the weight. I had points measured on the boat to lift to, and lines on the trailer with polypropylene leaders (floats). This way I could always get the boat perfectly positioned.
To pull the boat out, simply put the trailer in plenty deep, to fit the boat to the bow eye. Secure the bow eye, then (working in the cockpit) raise the trailer to the boat and tie it on! Don't lift one side all at once. Come up a few inches at a time. Once the trailer is firmly tied to the boat, pull the works out. This method was used several times a year, for 5 years, and it always worked great and amazed the crowds!
Hope this helps somebody,
regards, JimL
leinfam@earthlink.net
For my S20 I weighed the trailer (at the rear, with tongue on a jack stand). I used two large blocks of closed cell foam, in plywood boxes, bolted to the top rear of the trailer frame (each side). It's necessary to calculate the flotation of the tires, also, to include in the displacement (treat them as a pipe column, length equal to circumference). I set the trailer bouyancy about 60 lbs or so "heavy" (might have been a little less, don't recall). Use the appropriate cubic feet of floatation to almost lift the weight. I had points measured on the boat to lift to, and lines on the trailer with polypropylene leaders (floats). This way I could always get the boat perfectly positioned.
To pull the boat out, simply put the trailer in plenty deep, to fit the boat to the bow eye. Secure the bow eye, then (working in the cockpit) raise the trailer to the boat and tie it on! Don't lift one side all at once. Come up a few inches at a time. Once the trailer is firmly tied to the boat, pull the works out. This method was used several times a year, for 5 years, and it always worked great and amazed the crowds!
Hope this helps somebody,
regards, JimL
leinfam@earthlink.net