Newbie Question

[Gary L.]

Having recently purchased a 1985 CD30 - after 30 years of sailing, I feel like a "neophyte", especially when it comes to diesel engines. I have a Universal Model 18. My question is "how do I stop it? I have looked at the manual, which says “To stop engine on early Models 15, 18, 20, 30 & 40, hold throttle lever in the back position against the spring loading until the engine stops. Then release the throttle from the stop position and throttle will return to the idle position.” However, my throttle level, does not appear to have a spring loaded area to shut off. There are no shut off levers on the panel or elsewhere. The few times, that I have run the engine, I have had to resort to pulling the compression lever, which the manual says could cause problems. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30B, Hull#339
Somerset, MA



dory26@attbi.com

[Ken Coit]

This is one of those questions I ought to leave to someone else, but the thought of you wanting to go sailing this weekend and needing to shut down that engine causes me to respond anyway. I know zip about Universal engines, so I can't tell you where to look to find the convenient shut off, but down by your fuel tank there should be a valve that cuts off the fuel flow between the tank and the filters which lead to the engine. Closing that valve ought to shut down the engine fairly quickly.

Have a great weekend.


Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Having recently purchased a 1985 CD30 - after 30 years of sailing, I feel like a "neophyte", especially when it comes to diesel engines. I have a Universal Model 18. My question is "how do I stop it? I have looked at the manual, which says “To stop engine on early Models 15, 18, 20, 30 & 40, hold throttle lever in the back position against the spring loading until the engine stops. Then release the throttle from the stop position and throttle will return to the idle position.” However, my throttle level, does not appear to have a spring loaded area to shut off. There are no shut off levers on the panel or elsewhere. The few times, that I have run the engine, I have had to resort to pulling the compression lever, which the manual says could cause problems. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30B, Hull#339
Somerset, MA

parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

[Gary L.]

Thanks Ken,
I have looked for a fuel shutoff and couldn't find it before. I will look harder next time. Have a great weekend yourself.

Gary





dory26@attbi.com

[M. R. Bober]

Question: Won't shutting down the engine this way (closing the fuel line shutoff valve) require a bleed of the lines to restart the engine?

Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Annapolis, MD

[Ken Coit]

Mitchell,

I haven't tried it, so I don't really know and I certainly don't know about the Universal 18, but it seems to me that when I shut down Parfait's Perkins 4-108, all I am really doing is temporarily cutting off the fuel to the injector pump on the low pressure side, thus starving the engine of fuel. I haven't opened up the system to introduce any air, just stopped the fuel from flowing. Whether I do this at the pump or at the fuel tank, the affect should be the same and no air should be introduced so there shouldn't be any air to bleed.

Isn't that how all diesels are stopped, by cutting off the fuel? What else is there to shut down besides fuel and air?

Have a great weekend.


Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Question: Won't shutting down the engine this way (closing the fuel line shutoff valve) require a bleed of the lines to restart the engine?

Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Annapolis, MD

parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

[Joe Sankey]

Gary, I've owned two Universal M18s; currently on a 1984 CD30. On the engine panel there is a T handle; pull it out to stop engine. Should be one on yours.
Joe Sankey
CD 30 Slow Dance
Magnolia Springs, AL

Having recently purchased a 1985 CD30 - after 30 years of sailing, I feel like a "neophyte", especially when it comes to diesel engines. I have a Universal Model 18. My question is "how do I stop it? I have looked at the manual, which says “To stop engine on early Models 15, 18, 20, 30 & 40, hold throttle lever in the back position against the spring loading until the engine stops. Then release the throttle from the stop position and throttle will return to the idle position.” However, my throttle level, does not appear to have a spring loaded area to shut off. There are no shut off levers on the panel or elsewhere. The few times, that I have run the engine, I have had to resort to pulling the compression lever, which the manual says could cause problems. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30B, Hull#339
Somerset, MA

sankey@gulftel.com

[Ken Coit]

Peter Compton's "Troubleshooting Marine Diesels" indicates that if you cut off the fuel supply, you will have to bleed the system.

Ken

Mitchell,

I haven't tried it, so I don't really know and I certainly don't know about the Universal 18, but it seems to me that when I shut down Parfait's Perkins 4-108, all I am really doing is temporarily cutting off the fuel to the injector pump on the low pressure side, thus starving the engine of fuel. I haven't opened up the system to introduce any air, just stopped the fuel from flowing. Whether I do this at the pump or at the fuel tank, the affect should be the same and no air should be introduced so there shouldn't be any air to bleed.

Isn't that how all diesels are stopped, by cutting off the fuel? What else is there to shut down besides fuel and air?

Have a great weekend.


Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Question: Won't shutting down the engine this way (closing the fuel line shutoff valve) require a bleed of the lines to restart the engine?

Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Annapolis, MD

parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com

[Paul Hierstein]

Thanks Ken,
I have looked for a fuel shutoff and couldn't find it before. I will look harder next time. Have a great weekend yourself.

Gary

If you pull out the T handle to kill your diesel, don't forget to shove it back in when the engine is dead. It makes it a little easier starting the next time! Been there, done that!
Paul H.
Abre Alas
CD30C
Galveston, Texas



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