OK, I think we need a little 60's thinking about these wonderfully simple and very expensive gauges. Does anyone besides me want to start a Loos Rig Tension Gauge Cooperative? I'd be happy to spend less than $100 for one gauge or even less than $150 for two gauges, but no one told me that the CD/36 would bring our family into the stratosphere of boat indulgences with a need to buy two gauges: the Loos PT-3 guage at $145 a shot and also the PT-2 at $75. At least shipping would be free!
It seems to me that we need to make up a travelling set of gauges and charge a small fee ($10 for PT1 and PT2, $20 for PT3?) plus shipping for a couple weeks use. I guess a deposit might help alleviate some problems as well. Or maybe we simply need a set of investors. Maybe CDSOA needs to take on this cooperative task and provide funding?
This wouldn't get everyone in the water with super tuned rigs at the same time, but it will sure cut down on the waste of aluminum and dollars for tools that really need to be used no more than once a year or so.
Does anyone want to join me in a cooperative for a set of Loos gauges? Total price for a set of three is about $290 plus tax; the 36 only needs two at $220. Are there boats that need the PT1 at $70?
How about a Brian Toss video on rig tuning at $25? See: https://commerce5.pair.com/brion/cgi-bi ... _store.cgi
for more info on these and rigs in general.
Send an email if you are interested and give me some idea of what gauge(s)your rigging requires. Let me know whether you prefer to be an "investor" or a renter and I will see what we can pull together. First come, first served. If you want to discuss this on the board, I'll read those postings as well.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
(Does anyone have any idea how many times I misspelled gauge?)
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parfait@nc.rr.com
Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee Whiz
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Chris Reinke
Re: Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee
Ken - Sounds like a great idea!
I would be interested in becoming an investor if you can gather enough other folks to make the cost more reasonable. I have an older gauge and would consider using one of the newer, more accurate, models if they were available without having to sell the boat to cover the cost.
If you can gather 10 CD owners together for $30 each we could collectively own the complete set. The only cost would be shipping. If we agree to forward it on to the next user at the current users expense (it is shipped to each user free of charge), then the shipping would be paid as they are used.
I would suggest that one person be designated as a single point for making "reservations" or requests for the gauges and they could also keep track of who has them
Chris.reinke@sac.com
I would be interested in becoming an investor if you can gather enough other folks to make the cost more reasonable. I have an older gauge and would consider using one of the newer, more accurate, models if they were available without having to sell the boat to cover the cost.
If you can gather 10 CD owners together for $30 each we could collectively own the complete set. The only cost would be shipping. If we agree to forward it on to the next user at the current users expense (it is shipped to each user free of charge), then the shipping would be paid as they are used.
I would suggest that one person be designated as a single point for making "reservations" or requests for the gauges and they could also keep track of who has them
Ken Coit wrote: OK, I think we need a little 60's thinking about these wonderfully simple and very expensive gauges. Does anyone besides me want to start a Loos Rig Tension Gauge Cooperative? I'd be happy to spend less than $100 for one gauge or even less than $150 for two gauges, but no one told me that the CD/36 would bring our family into the stratosphere of boat indulgences with a need to buy two gauges: the Loos PT-3 guage at $145 a shot and also the PT-2 at $75. At least shipping would be free!
It seems to me that we need to make up a travelling set of gauges and charge a small fee ($10 for PT1 and PT2, $20 for PT3?) plus shipping for a couple weeks use. I guess a deposit might help alleviate some problems as well. Or maybe we simply need a set of investors. Maybe CDSOA needs to take on this cooperative task and provide funding?
This wouldn't get everyone in the water with super tuned rigs at the same time, but it will sure cut down on the waste of aluminum and dollars for tools that really need to be used no more than once a year or so.
Does anyone want to join me in a cooperative for a set of Loos gauges? Total price for a set of three is about $290 plus tax; the 36 only needs two at $220. Are there boats that need the PT1 at $70?
How about a Brian Toss video on rig tuning at $25? See: https://commerce5.pair.com/brion/cgi-bi ... _store.cgi
for more info on these and rigs in general.
Send an email if you are interested and give me some idea of what gauge(s)your rigging requires. Let me know whether you prefer to be an "investor" or a renter and I will see what we can pull together. First come, first served. If you want to discuss this on the board, I'll read those postings as well.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
(Does anyone have any idea how many times I misspelled gauge?)
Chris.reinke@sac.com
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Gary L.
Re: Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee
I wished you had written this yesterday. I just bought the PT-2 on the internet. I am willing to save some other sailor the expense, just e-mail me.
Have a Great and Safe Weekend.
Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30B, Hull #339
Somerset, MA
dory26@attbi.com
Have a Great and Safe Weekend.
Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30B, Hull #339
Somerset, MA
dory26@attbi.com
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Ken Coit
Re: Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee
Gary,
Presuming your PT-2 is in good shape, I don't see why we couldn't consider it and other "used" gauges for the pool. I guess we would have to come to some agreed value, like what you paid or full retail, but other than that I see no reason to give West Marine or anyone else more business than we have to.
Maybe ebay is a good place to get the whole set?
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Presuming your PT-2 is in good shape, I don't see why we couldn't consider it and other "used" gauges for the pool. I guess we would have to come to some agreed value, like what you paid or full retail, but other than that I see no reason to give West Marine or anyone else more business than we have to.
Maybe ebay is a good place to get the whole set?
Ken
Gary L. wrote:
I wished you had written this yesterday. I just bought the PT-2 on the internet. I am willing to save some other sailor the expense, just e-mail me.
Have a Great and Safe Weekend.
Gary Lapine
Red Witch III
CD30B, Hull #339
Somerset, MA
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
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Ken Coit
Re: Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee
There have been several indications of interest in just a few hours and one person has offered to see if we can work a bulk order discount. Meanwhile, if you just can't wait for the wheels of volunteerism to turn, Sailnet may be your answer. They are selling the PT1, PT2 and PT3 for $45, $45, and $99 respectively. See the link below for details.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
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Jeff Barnes
Re: Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee
Ken
As far as I know, the CD36 shouldn't require the PT-2. I believe the PT-3 works down to 1/4" which is the smallest standing rigging on the 36.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
jbarnes@oxbio.com
As far as I know, the CD36 shouldn't require the PT-2. I believe the PT-3 works down to 1/4" which is the smallest standing rigging on the 36.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
jbarnes@oxbio.com
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Ken Coit
Re: Loos Rig Tension Gauges - I Love Tools, but Golly Gee
Jeff,
I agree that the 36 rigging is no smaller than 1/4", but according to the West Marine catalog, the specs on the gauges are as follows:
PT1: 3/32-5/32"
PT2: 3/16-1/4"
PT3: 9/32-3/8"
It does seem like a bit too much marketing or too little engineering to have three gauges at ridiculous prices that don't have any overlap in their range, but there you are! I can't believe any of those gauges cost any more than $10 landed in Los Angeles.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
I agree that the 36 rigging is no smaller than 1/4", but according to the West Marine catalog, the specs on the gauges are as follows:
PT1: 3/32-5/32"
PT2: 3/16-1/4"
PT3: 9/32-3/8"
It does seem like a bit too much marketing or too little engineering to have three gauges at ridiculous prices that don't have any overlap in their range, but there you are! I can't believe any of those gauges cost any more than $10 landed in Los Angeles.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Jeff Barnes wrote: Ken
As far as I know, the CD36 shouldn't require the PT-2. I believe the PT-3 works down to 1/4" which is the smallest standing rigging on the 36.
Regards,
Jeff Barnes
"Jazman" CD36 #68
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
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John R.
Lipton gauge?
Has anybody ever used a Lipton Tension Meter MkII rigging gauge? I bought one awhile back that I found at a marine consignment shop. They are beautifully made of cast aluminum alloy with a black wrinkle finish, stainless wire rope guides and stainless indicator. I haven't used it yet but is a nice piece of gear. I was hoping maybe someone has had experience with using one and wanted to know what they think of it. If anyone is interested in this gauge as a possible option to the Loos I can email you a pic of it. The one I have is practically new and I paid ten bucks for it (probably the best bargain I've ever made regarding the current boat).
It seems it is far higher quality than a Loos. They don't make the Lipton any longer but the folks that made it still have a few left. A Mr. Lipton designed and manufactured the gauge up in Mamaroneck, N. Y.,.
It seems it is far higher quality than a Loos. They don't make the Lipton any longer but the folks that made it still have a few left. A Mr. Lipton designed and manufactured the gauge up in Mamaroneck, N. Y.,.
Ken Coit wrote: OK, I think we need a little 60's thinking about these wonderfully simple and very expensive gauges. Does anyone besides me want to start a Loos Rig Tension Gauge Cooperative? I'd be happy to spend less than $100 for one gauge or even less than $150 for two gauges, but no one told me that the CD/36 would bring our family into the stratosphere of boat indulgences with a need to buy two gauges: the Loos PT-3 guage at $145 a shot and also the PT-2 at $75. At least shipping would be free!
It seems to me that we need to make up a travelling set of gauges and charge a small fee ($10 for PT1 and PT2, $20 for PT3?) plus shipping for a couple weeks use. I guess a deposit might help alleviate some problems as well. Or maybe we simply need a set of investors. Maybe CDSOA needs to take on this cooperative task and provide funding?
This wouldn't get everyone in the water with super tuned rigs at the same time, but it will sure cut down on the waste of aluminum and dollars for tools that really need to be used no more than once a year or so.
Does anyone want to join me in a cooperative for a set of Loos gauges? Total price for a set of three is about $290 plus tax; the 36 only needs two at $220. Are there boats that need the PT1 at $70?
How about a Brian Toss video on rig tuning at $25? See: https://commerce5.pair.com/brion/cgi-bi ... _store.cgi
for more info on these and rigs in general.
Send an email if you are interested and give me some idea of what gauge(s)your rigging requires. Let me know whether you prefer to be an "investor" or a renter and I will see what we can pull together. First come, first served. If you want to discuss this on the board, I'll read those postings as well.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
(Does anyone have any idea how many times I misspelled gauge?)
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Ken Coit
Re: Lipton gauge?
John,
You can send me a photo and contact info if you have it.
Thanks,
Ken Coit
parfait@nc.rr.com
You can send me a photo and contact info if you have it.
Thanks,
Ken Coit
John R. wrote: Has anybody ever used a Lipton Tension Meter MkII rigging gauge? I bought one awhile back that I found at a marine consignment shop. They are beautifully made of cast aluminum alloy with a black wrinkle finish, stainless wire rope guides and stainless indicator. I haven't used it yet but is a nice piece of gear. I was hoping maybe someone has had experience with using one and wanted to know what they think of it. If anyone is interested in this gauge as a possible option to the Loos I can email you a pic of it. The one I have is practically new and I paid ten bucks for it (probably the best bargain I've ever made regarding the current boat).
It seems it is far higher quality than a Loos. They don't make the Lipton any longer but the folks that made it still have a few left. A Mr. Lipton designed and manufactured the gauge up in Mamaroneck, N. Y.,.
Ken Coit wrote: OK, I think we need a little 60's thinking about these wonderfully simple and very expensive gauges. Does anyone besides me want to start a Loos Rig Tension Gauge Cooperative? I'd be happy to spend less than $100 for one gauge or even less than $150 for two gauges, but no one told me that the CD/36 would bring our family into the stratosphere of boat indulgences with a need to buy two gauges: the Loos PT-3 guage at $145 a shot and also the PT-2 at $75. At least shipping would be free!
It seems to me that we need to make up a travelling set of gauges and charge a small fee ($10 for PT1 and PT2, $20 for PT3?) plus shipping for a couple weeks use. I guess a deposit might help alleviate some problems as well. Or maybe we simply need a set of investors. Maybe CDSOA needs to take on this cooperative task and provide funding?
This wouldn't get everyone in the water with super tuned rigs at the same time, but it will sure cut down on the waste of aluminum and dollars for tools that really need to be used no more than once a year or so.
Does anyone want to join me in a cooperative for a set of Loos gauges? Total price for a set of three is about $290 plus tax; the 36 only needs two at $220. Are there boats that need the PT1 at $70?
How about a Brian Toss video on rig tuning at $25? See: https://commerce5.pair.com/brion/cgi-bi ... _store.cgi
for more info on these and rigs in general.
Send an email if you are interested and give me some idea of what gauge(s)your rigging requires. Let me know whether you prefer to be an "investor" or a renter and I will see what we can pull together. First come, first served. If you want to discuss this on the board, I'll read those postings as well.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/14 #538
CD/36 #84 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
(Does anyone have any idea how many times I misspelled gauge?)
parfait@nc.rr.com