Derogatory Names for Vessel

[John Nuttall]

......."Aimless" is definitly alive (and well) and SHE absolutely has a personality. Even my kids sense that, and refer to HER by name, as opposed to "the boat". I fully subscribe to the philosophy Don Casey put forth in his book "Good Old Boat": that you should choose (buy) a boat that makes your heart go pit-a-pat !!! Sometimes I wonder if "Aimless" chose me or I chose her.......???

And to sort of echo Warren's thoughts: while I am truly happy for someone who buys a "Buccaneer" and gets out on the water, I feel sorry for them too. For they will never have the same relationship WE can have with our boats that are so pleasing to the eye......

Albergs, Aldens, Luders, and many many others are just sooooo beautiful I don't have words to describe them.......just emotions.

I could go on, but 'nuff said.

G'night All, fare well, I wish you all a Splended Summer Sailing Season !!!

John
s/v Aimless
CD31
CD10
Oriental, NC

[John Phillips]

I remember once seeing a sailboat on the Missouri river that was, if I remember correctly, lime green with yellow accents. Her skipper was an exceptionally good guitar player and singer of Buffet tunes. He had named this lovely boat, "Cirrhosis of the River." As a sailor I cannot understand why he would pick that name.
John

Looking for derogatory names for a boat. ie. How would you describe an ugly vessel, Is Tramp Steamer correct, how about Scow? I need to fill in this line: "One skippers ___________ is another's Dream Yacht"


of course I'm not refering to Cape Dories, or being malicious to anyone or boat in particular

branchedoakmarina@allte.net

[Tom]

Around here Westsails are universally refered to as "Wetsnails". Not for their appearance, but for their sailings characteristics to weather. As we all know, of course, - "Gentlemen don't sail to weather"

Along the same line, but not necessarily for ugly boats but rather cute or unique names for boats, one of my favorites is on a little 14 foot sailboat in Santa Barbara. "The Cunning Linguist". Apparently the owner is a languae prof at Univ. of Calif. at Santa Barbara. Another one I like is a little boat in Channel Islands named "Dot Calm" Another name I like is from our board here. "Hunky Dory" is an inspired name for a Cape Dory. I wish I had thought of that. "De La Mer" is good also. I've often thought of naming my next boat "On The Nose" for obvious reasons although a little cutesy and might be challenging the sea gods. If you want to keep the thread going, how about boat names you like?

Looking for derogatory names for a boat. ie. How would you describe an ugly vessel, Is Tramp Steamer correct, how about Scow? I need to fill in this line: "One skippers ___________ is another's Dream Yacht"


of course I'm not refering to Cape Dories, or being malicious to anyone or boat in particular

TomCambria@mindspring.com

[Will W.]

My boat was the "Luna Sea" before I renamed her. I did not know it at the time since the transom was clean. I thought about going back to that name but I will not temp fate twice by first naming a boat after your wife and then trying to change it.
"Nauti-Girl" is a name I saw recently that I thought was good.
BYW, lest anyone not take this naming thing seriously. I must advise them to rethink their folly. The things in life that we name get names because they need them. Warren is absolutly correct in having pity for those poor neglected vessels. Their soul requires a name. And while these objects we name start to develop personalities, they also start to take on your personalty attributes. This bond probably strengthens the more time you spend together.
I will share two sad stories to illustrate my point. The first car I ever bought new was a Mazda 626 Luxury Edition. It had lots of little compartments and spaces with doors that flipped open. One day the name Flip Flop was proposed and it seemed right at the time ( foolish mortal ). The car was always a piece of crap but the fates could not just saddle me with this cruddy car. They saw what i had named my car and literally the day it was paid for I rolled it down the side of a mountain in WV. The fellow who originally suggested the name Flip Flop was in the back seat.
This same fellow had a pretty cool cat named Skidmark until recently. Need I say more.
Think about this carefully when choosing a name a seemingly harmless name choice, Can, I beleive, help lead to a disaterous ending.
As far as calling someone elses boat a derogatory name. This has got to be like waving a red flag in front of a bull where the fates are concerned.

Will Wheatley
Suzi Q
CD25
Sailing from Chesapeake Beach, MD

Around here Westsails are universally refered to as "Wetsnails". Not for their appearance, but for their sailings characteristics to weather. As we all know, of course, - "Gentlemen don't sail to weather"

Along the same line, but not necessarily for ugly boats but rather cute or unique names for boats, one of my favorites is on a little 14 foot sailboat in Santa Barbara. "The Cunning Linguist". Apparently the owner is a languae prof at Univ. of Calif. at Santa Barbara. Another one I like is a little boat in Channel Islands named "Dot Calm" Another name I like is from our board here. "Hunky Dory" is an inspired name for a Cape Dory. I wish I had thought of that. "De La Mer" is good also. I've often thought of naming my next boat "On The Nose" for obvious reasons although a little cutesy and might be challenging the sea gods. If you want to keep the thread going, how about boat names you like?

Looking for derogatory names for a boat. ie. How would you describe an ugly vessel, Is Tramp Steamer correct, how about Scow? I need to fill in this line: "One skippers ___________ is another's Dream Yacht"


of course I'm not refering to Cape Dories, or being malicious to anyone or boat in particular

willwheatley@starpower.net

[Tom G]

I do not believe it is proper to be derogatory about another owners vessel. They all should be loved.

Looking for derogatory names for a boat. ie. How would you describe an ugly vessel, Is Tramp Steamer correct, how about Scow? I need to fill in this line: "One skippers ___________ is another's Dream Yacht"

of course I'm not refering to Cape Dories, or being malicious to anyone or boat in particular

tgrant9008@aol.com

[Gary L.]

......."Aimless" is definitly alive (and well) and SHE absolutely has a personality. Even my kids sense that, and refer to HER by name, as opposed to "the boat". I fully subscribe to the philosophy Don Casey put forth in his book "Good Old Boat": that you should choose (buy) a boat that makes your heart go pit-a-pat !!! Sometimes I wonder if "Aimless" chose me or I chose her.......???

And to sort of echo Warren's thoughts: while I am truly happy for someone who buys a "Buccaneer" and gets out on the water, I feel sorry for them too. For they will never have the same relationship WE can have with our boats that are so pleasing to the eye......

Albergs, Aldens, Luders, and many many others are just sooooo beautiful I don't have words to describe them.......just emotions.

I could go on, but 'nuff said.

G'night All, fare well, I wish you all a Splended Summer Sailing Season !!!

John
s/v Aimless
CD31
CD10
Oriental, NC

John,

Have you heard the song, "Blue Dolphin" by Stan Rogers. Boats look for lost souls like us. They reflect what we want them to be, and we name them for such dreams.



dory26@attbi.com

[Larry DeMers]

Warren and all,
Well, spending as many nights aboard our DeLaMer as we have done over these 13 years now, we have come to understand that DLM IS an individual personality, and she does respond to good treatment and care. I have told Warren this before, but never admitted it publicly. I am sometimes finding myself actually planting a little kiss on DLM's companionway wood work as we leave on Sunday nights.
To us, our boat is far more than that. I am not sure what exactly she is though. Certainly, she is our home and our transportation, but she is more yet. She has kept me alive when all in my life was dim and bleak and I was out of reasons to live. She has kept us safe in the worst storms ever seen on Superior. She has forgiven this captains teething and learning experiences in the beginning, and has never failed us..never. She continues to provide us with a sense of wonder and excitement, when little else in life comes even close to that. SHe gives us our 'escape pod' from weekly life, and a taste of what *could be* someday, if we want it bad enough. (we do).

So I am glad to learn I am not alone in this rather whacko way of looking at our boats. But I suspect we are closer to the truth than we actually know.

A Metaphysical Cheers to all,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior...Launch Tomorrow Morn!! -finally-

I know that my boat, Sine Qua Non, is alive and I talk to it often. Methinks I am not alone in this although many sailors won't admit it. When I see a vessel that is not pleasing to the eye, or is neglected, call me nuts but I feel sorry for it. Like all living things it cannot pick its parents (designers) or its caretakers. I never could add insult to injury by heaping a derogatory name on the poor boat. Yep! I should be committed to the nearest mental health facility but that's how I feel.

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
A Beautiful CD27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY

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[Larry DeMers]

Right you are Bob! As an 18 year owner of a wood Melges C-Scow, I would say that it was the most fun I have ever had in my life..up til my CD30 of course. But those are beautiful boats that sail like lightning. We once passed a fisherman in an aluminum boat with a merc 10hp outboard, going full out on plane. We hit over 20 kts on that broad reach, and our bow wave had to be 30 ft either side of the boat. Of course, he flew by us once the wind died off..;^).

I live in the area where the scow was invented..by Johnson Boats.. specificly, Skip Johnson and his family, back in the 1920's.

So Scow is actually a bad word for a beautiful boat.

Cheers,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior

how about Scow?

Whoa....You obviously have never seen inland lakes racing scows. An A boat is one of the most beautiful sights to behold...

http://www.ilya.org/ascows.html

demers@sgi.com

[Bob Loewenstein]

I live in the area where the scow was invented..by Johnson Boats..

And I live where Harry Melges (and Buddy) perfected the M16 and M20. They are now producing new A boats as the fleet is growing. We had a regatta on Lake Geneva with about 9 A boats two years ago. I used to own a wonderful wooden Melges M16 (1958 vintage) and now own a fiberglass one.

I think a scow has to be seen to be believed. On a beam reach and planing, it really goes.

Bob

[Richard Feffer]

While cruising the ICW, I once saw a boat named "Fanny Doctor"! Obviously a proctologist since he had a graphic of a rear view of a sweet young thing bending over and lowering her panties!!! A few days later I heard "Rear Ender" calling him on the radio. To this day, I don't know if they were associates in the medical field or if the second guy was in automobile collision. Both powerboaters!!!



RichFef@Prodigy.net

[Warren Kaplan]

While cruising the ICW, I once saw a boat named "Fanny Doctor"! Obviously a proctologist since he had a graphic of a rear view of a sweet young thing bending over and lowering her panties!!! A few days later I heard "Rear Ender" calling him on the radio. To this day, I don't know if they were associates in the medical field or if the second guy was in automobile collision. Both powerboaters!!!

Richard,
It sure figures. These proctologists, just like all their patients, are assholes! ( Sorry. I couldn't resist!)

Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
Cd27
Oyster Bay Harbor, NY



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[fred]

derogatory name for a boat?
how 'bout "beneteau"?

[Catherine Monaghan]

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[Larry DeMers]

Ahh, down in Zenda, Wisc.?
I worked with Buddy Melges in developing a special 90/10% balanced, retractable rudder for the C-Scow. It was great too. Had the center pivot point of the rudder 10% behind the rudders leading edge so that some of the water slipstream would aid in turning the rudder. This helped a lot in off the wind sailing as the cat rigged boat had a lot of weather helm, even with the mast raked as far as it would go. So the balanced rudder approach kind of adds power steering to it.

Buddy is a cool guy. He sure loves sailing in any form.

Cheers,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior

I live in the area where the scow was invented..by Johnson Boats..

And I live where Harry Melges (and Buddy) perfected the M16 and M20. They are now producing new A boats as the fleet is growing. We had a regatta on Lake Geneva with about 9 A boats two years ago. I used to own a wonderful wooden Melges M16 (1958 vintage) and now own a fiberglass one.

I think a scow has to be seen to be believed. On a beam reach and planing, it really goes.

Bob

demers@sgi.com