Perkins Starter Solenoid Questions

[Ken Coit]

CD/36 with Perkins 4-108M engine. Is the starter solenoid removable separately, or must one also remove that great big starter motor? I have everything loose, but the solenoid seemed to be still mechanically linked to the starter. I suppose there is some sort of a lever that engages the starter gear into the flywheel and that there is a pin or something else that needs to be removed. Can anyone tell me? Can I do it blind from the front of the engine or do I need to go to the other end?

I need to replace or extend the stud on the solenoid where the starting switch connects. I tried to take it apart and the bolt sheared off. I guess that is where some of those volts were going! At this point I am thinking of an internally threaded hex-shaped rod that I can screw onto the remaining stud and then add a bolt to the other end. Other suggestions are welcome.


Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit
CD/14
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC



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[Ken Coit]

It's called a coupling nut!

Any other ideas?

Ken

CD/36 with Perkins 4-108M engine. Is the starter solenoid removable separately, or must one also remove that great big starter motor? I have everything loose, but the solenoid seemed to be still mechanically linked to the starter. I suppose there is some sort of a lever that engages the starter gear into the flywheel and that there is a pin or something else that needs to be removed. Can anyone tell me? Can I do it blind from the front of the engine or do I need to go to the other end?

I need to replace or extend the stud on the solenoid where the starting switch connects. I tried to take it apart and the bolt sheared off. I guess that is where some of those volts were going! At this point I am thinking of an internally threaded hex-shaped rod that I can screw onto the remaining stud and then add a bolt to the other end. Other suggestions are welcome.


Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit
CD/14
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

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[matt cawthorne]

Ken,?br? I think that I was able to take the solonoid out of the starter by removing two bolts from the front side. Beyond that I believe that it can be wiggled out. There is a trick to it, but I do not remember what that trick was. ?br? When I removed my starter several years ago I concluded that it would have been easier to cut a hole in the hull, replace the starter and re-glass the hull than to remove the starter from the inside. Others have told me 'piece of cake'. In the Patricia Louise, the starter is right next to the hull. It might be that the prop shaft hole was drilled a little low, placing the engine there. Getting to the front side of the mounting bolts required 3 rachet extensions and two swivels. That was the easy side. If I had to do it again, I would buy several box end wrenches of the size that fit the starter nuts and experiment with a torch to bend them so I could reach the back side from the front side of the engine. To get at them I had to raise the engine up. That meant re-aligning the engine. That stinking starter motor is heavy. When pulling it out I dropped it under the engine. It turned out to be an hour job just to get it out from there. The bottom line is that if you can replace the solonoid without removing the starter you will save yourself a bunch of time.?p?matt



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[Ken Coit]

Matt,

I fully agree! IF I can get the solenoid out without the starter, it will be a much easier job. I already had it out except for the appropriate wiggles; I don't know what they are either.

Looking at the starter, I decided yesterday that I would tie a line around it well before the last bolt was pulled out. I have found some aluminum spacers that are threaded 8-32 like the remaining length of stud on the solenoid. My next trip, I will try that as a solution. I don't like using a dissimilar metal, but aluminum is the best I have found so far. Maybe our super fastener store will have something in mild steel or stainless.

Does anyone else have views on this?


Keep on sailing,

Ken Coit
CD/14
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC

Ken,?br? I think that I was able to take the solonoid out of the starter by removing two bolts from the front side. Beyond that I believe that it can be wiggled out. There is a trick to it, but I do not remember what that trick was. ?br? When I removed my starter several years ago I concluded that it would have been easier to cut a hole in the hull, replace the starter and re-glass the hull than to remove the starter from the inside. Others have told me 'piece of cake'. In the Patricia Louise, the starter is right next to the hull. It might be that the prop shaft hole was drilled a little low, placing the engine there. Getting to the front side of the mounting bolts required 3 rachet extensions and two swivels. That was the easy side. If I had to do it again, I would buy several box end wrenches of the size that fit the starter nuts and experiment with a torch to bend them so I could reach the back side from the front side of the engine. To get at them I had to raise the engine up. That meant re-aligning the engine. That stinking starter motor is heavy. When pulling it out I dropped it under the engine. It turned out to be an hour job just to get it out from there. The bottom line is that if you can replace the solonoid without removing the starter you will save yourself a bunch of time.?p?matt

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