OK,
I am not an attorney and you must take what follows as suspect and not advice at all, but after patiently waiting for an answer the past several weeks, I sent another request to the USCG. The answer is as follows:
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According to our regulations, the hailing port must be a place in the U.S. included in the U.S. Department of Commerce's Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 55DC (web site below). The Hailing Port must include the State, territory, or possession.
http://geonames.usgs.gov/ <http://geonames.usgs.gov/>
Diane Miller
Documentation Officer
National Vessel Documentation Center
792 TJ Jackson Drive
Falling Waters, WV 25419
1-800-799-8362
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I was very specific about Parfait's documentation and whether it needed to be corrected, since her hailing port is Raleigh, NC, a place she has never been. The above is the entire answer. I am not planning to redocument Parfait unless I find something really enticing, like "Coitsville Ditch, OH", "Coit Mountain, NH", "Lizard Lick, NC" or "Coit Street Historic District, CT" that I want to add to the transom. I still like "Pikes Peak" a lot, but I can't decide what state to use. If anyone would like a copy of the details, I will be happy to forward the email trail. Just email me as above, leaving out the NOSPAM portion.
Keep on sailing from your home port, but now I think you can hail from someplace nice, or not so nice; it is your choice!
I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY!!
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Hailing Port - Have Fun!
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Hanalei
Re: "Coit Street", New London, CT
Captain Coit,
Don't ya just love it when the big guys give ya just the answer you are looking for? Oh, well, there IS a Coit Street in New London, CT. Not the best part of town, somewhat close to the harbour, but maybe you could hail from there. At least that way, you could participate in the RACE this summer...! ! !
Hanalei
Don't ya just love it when the big guys give ya just the answer you are looking for? Oh, well, there IS a Coit Street in New London, CT. Not the best part of town, somewhat close to the harbour, but maybe you could hail from there. At least that way, you could participate in the RACE this summer...! ! !
Hanalei
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Bob Loewenstein
Re: Hailing Port - Have Fun!
Interesting. I see on the website that Antarctic locations are included. I wonder if this means that I could change my hailing port to someplace in Antarctica (I am a member of the RIYCA, [Ross Island Yacht Club of Antarctica], after all).Ken Coit wrote: According to our regulations, the hailing port must be a place in the U.S. included in the U.S. Department of Commerce's Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 55DC (web site below). The Hailing Port must include the State, territory, or possession.
Bob
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Ken Coit
No, the place must be in the United States (nm)
Bob Loewenstein wrote:Interesting. I see on the website that Antarctic locations are included. I wonder if this means that I could change my hailing port to someplace in Antarctica (I am a member of the RIYCA, [Ross Island Yacht Club of Antarctica], after all).Ken Coit wrote: According to our regulations, the hailing port must be a place in the U.S. included in the U.S. Department of Commerce's Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 55DC (web site below). The Hailing Port must include the State, territory, or possession.
Bob
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
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Catherine Monaghan
Re: Hailing Port - Have Fun!
Ken,
Do you have to register your boat with the State as well?
In NJ all vessels have to be registered whether they're documented or not. Realization is documented. Since we applied for the registration in Rahway, NJ, that's what we put on her transom. By the way, the Rahway River, a navigable waterway, winds its way through Rahway. There's even a yacht club. So we don't feel bad about the Rahway hailing port, especially since it's the town where we live, even though she sails out of Morgan, NJ.
I'd keep Raleigh on the transom.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
Do you have to register your boat with the State as well?
In NJ all vessels have to be registered whether they're documented or not. Realization is documented. Since we applied for the registration in Rahway, NJ, that's what we put on her transom. By the way, the Rahway River, a navigable waterway, winds its way through Rahway. There's even a yacht club. So we don't feel bad about the Rahway hailing port, especially since it's the town where we live, even though she sails out of Morgan, NJ.
I'd keep Raleigh on the transom.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Ken Coit wrote: OK,
I am not an attorney and you must take what follows as suspect and not advice at all, but after patiently waiting for an answer the past several weeks, I sent another request to the USCG. The answer is as follows:
------------------
According to our regulations, the hailing port must be a place in the U.S. included in the U.S. Department of Commerce's Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 55DC (web site below). The Hailing Port must include the State, territory, or possession.
http://geonames.usgs.gov/ <http://geonames.usgs.gov/>
Diane Miller
Documentation Officer
National Vessel Documentation Center
792 TJ Jackson Drive
Falling Waters, WV 25419
1-800-799-8362
-----------------------------
I was very specific about Parfait's documentation and whether it needed to be corrected, since her hailing port is Raleigh, NC, a place she has never been. The above is the entire answer. I am not planning to redocument Parfait unless I find something really enticing, like "Coitsville Ditch, OH", "Coit Mountain, NH", "Lizard Lick, NC" or "Coit Street Historic District, CT" that I want to add to the transom. I still like "Pikes Peak" a lot, but I can't decide what state to use. If anyone would like a copy of the details, I will be happy to forward the email trail. Just email me as above, leaving out the NOSPAM portion.
Keep on sailing from your home port, but now I think you can hail from someplace nice, or not so nice; it is your choice!
I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY!!
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com
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Ken Coit
Re: Hailing Port - Have Fun!
Cathy,
From:
http://www.wildlife.state.nc.us/pg01_Li ... 1c1.htm#q4
"Vessels Documented with the U.S. Coast Guard do not need to be registered in North Carolina."
However, powered dinghys do.
I'll be keeping "Raleigh, NC" on Parfait's transom and the documentation simply because I like it, I am lazy, and I am also not interested in parting unnecessarily with the green stuff. Besides, I only rent my slip and I could have to move her somewhere else.
I still like Pike's Peak, but the air is pretty thin up there.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
From:
http://www.wildlife.state.nc.us/pg01_Li ... 1c1.htm#q4
"Vessels Documented with the U.S. Coast Guard do not need to be registered in North Carolina."
However, powered dinghys do.
I'll be keeping "Raleigh, NC" on Parfait's transom and the documentation simply because I like it, I am lazy, and I am also not interested in parting unnecessarily with the green stuff. Besides, I only rent my slip and I could have to move her somewhere else.
I still like Pike's Peak, but the air is pretty thin up there.
Keep on sailing,
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
Catherine Monaghan wrote: Ken,
Do you have to register your boat with the State as well?
In NJ all vessels have to be registered whether they're documented or not. Realization is documented. Since we applied for the registration in Rahway, NJ, that's what we put on her transom. By the way, the Rahway River, a navigable waterway, winds its way through Rahway. There's even a yacht club. So we don't feel bad about the Rahway hailing port, especially since it's the town where we live, even though she sails out of Morgan, NJ.
I'd keep Raleigh on the transom.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Ken Coit wrote: OK,
I am not an attorney and you must take what follows as suspect and not advice at all, but after patiently waiting for an answer the past several weeks, I sent another request to the USCG. The answer is as follows:
------------------
According to our regulations, the hailing port must be a place in the U.S. included in the U.S. Department of Commerce's Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 55DC (web site below). The Hailing Port must include the State, territory, or possession.
http://geonames.usgs.gov/ <http://geonames.usgs.gov/>
Diane Miller
Documentation Officer
National Vessel Documentation Center
792 TJ Jackson Drive
Falling Waters, WV 25419
1-800-799-8362
-----------------------------
I was very specific about Parfait's documentation and whether it needed to be corrected, since her hailing port is Raleigh, NC, a place she has never been. The above is the entire answer. I am not planning to redocument Parfait unless I find something really enticing, like "Coitsville Ditch, OH", "Coit Mountain, NH", "Lizard Lick, NC" or "Coit Street Historic District, CT" that I want to add to the transom. I still like "Pikes Peak" a lot, but I can't decide what state to use. If anyone would like a copy of the details, I will be happy to forward the email trail. Just email me as above, leaving out the NOSPAM portion.
Keep on sailing from your home port, but now I think you can hail from someplace nice, or not so nice; it is your choice!
I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY!!
Ken Coit
CD/36 Parfait
Hailing Port: Raleigh, NC
Sailing from: Beaufort, NC
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com