Please be advised that stainless steel is not the solution that everyone in the boating industry hoped that it would be. When brought into general use in the '50s and '60s the general perception was that stainless steel would be able to solve everyon's problems. Now, after several decades of use we have found that this is not so. Unfortunately stainless steel tends to bleed rust, tends to work harden and break without any teltale signs and is subject to severe corrosion under certain conditions. Perhaps the "old timers" were right in their use of Bronze after all. In my business I frequently see 100 + year old Bronze fittings that are still working.
On Saturday 27 April I will be doing a seminar on Marine Metals at the Philadelphia Wooden Boat Factory in Philadelphia. I will have quite a few old fittings with me (including several in stainless steel) that are excellent examples of corrosion and deterioration. I just got one stainless steel prop shaft that you will have to see to believe. The purpose of the seminar will be how to recognize the deterioration so that the part can be replaced before it breaks. At the seminar we will go over the various marine metals in depth and point out their good and bad points. Anyone that is interested in attending is welcome to do so. You don't have to own a wooden boat to come but you do need to make reservations. They can be made by calling Geoffery at 215-755-2400. We expect that the seminar will run from 10:00 AM until at least 3:00 PM.
Roger W.
Bristol Bronze
401-625-5224
info@bristolbronze.com
Bronze VS Stainless Steel
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Bill
Re: Hey Roger - Why can't I find Bronze Nylocs? (n.m.)
Duncan
I tried to find some last spring and was told by a major bolt/nut/screw distributor that there was no such animal. I hgot the distributors name from West Marine. Then I ordered the bolts from Defender (I think) and low and behold they had the nylocs. NOw I have slept since then but I remember thinking at the time that "there is nothing like a national sales rep that know his product line". So I think I am right. However I just looked in Defenders catalog and can find them, so I'll check and see where they came from.
Fair Winds
Bill
Captain Commanding
S/V Rhapsody (the Original)
CD25D #148
Oklahoma Contingent of the NE Fleet CDSOA, Inc
Galley Wench S/V Evening Light
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
I tried to find some last spring and was told by a major bolt/nut/screw distributor that there was no such animal. I hgot the distributors name from West Marine. Then I ordered the bolts from Defender (I think) and low and behold they had the nylocs. NOw I have slept since then but I remember thinking at the time that "there is nothing like a national sales rep that know his product line". So I think I am right. However I just looked in Defenders catalog and can find them, so I'll check and see where they came from.
Fair Winds
Bill
Captain Commanding
S/V Rhapsody (the Original)
CD25D #148
Oklahoma Contingent of the NE Fleet CDSOA, Inc
Galley Wench S/V Evening Light
Duncan Maio wrote: .
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
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John Phillips
Re: Bronze VS Stainless Steel
Roger:
I installed my ports today, chipped glass and all. I just put them in with sealant until I can find some #4- 1/2 " bronze screws. I might be able to find brass, but will that work right? If you happen to have the right screws, email me and I would be happy to buy them. And no, I am still not happy that you didn't follow up on the glass you sent me.
John
branchedoakmarina@alltel.net
I installed my ports today, chipped glass and all. I just put them in with sealant until I can find some #4- 1/2 " bronze screws. I might be able to find brass, but will that work right? If you happen to have the right screws, email me and I would be happy to buy them. And no, I am still not happy that you didn't follow up on the glass you sent me.
John
Bristol Bronze wrote: Please be advised that stainless steel is not the solution that everyone in the boating industry hoped that it would be. When brought into general use in the '50s and '60s the general perception was that stainless steel would be able to solve everyon's problems. Now, after several decades of use we have found that this is not so. Unfortunately stainless steel tends to bleed rust, tends to work harden and break without any teltale signs and is subject to severe corrosion under certain conditions. Perhaps the "old timers" were right in their use of Bronze after all. In my business I frequently see 100 + year old Bronze fittings that are still working.
On Saturday 27 April I will be doing a seminar on Marine Metals at the Philadelphia Wooden Boat Factory in Philadelphia. I will have quite a few old fittings with me (including several in stainless steel) that are excellent examples of corrosion and deterioration. I just got one stainless steel prop shaft that you will have to see to believe. The purpose of the seminar will be how to recognize the deterioration so that the part can be replaced before it breaks. At the seminar we will go over the various marine metals in depth and point out their good and bad points. Anyone that is interested in attending is welcome to do so. You don't have to own a wooden boat to come but you do need to make reservations. They can be made by calling Geoffery at 215-755-2400. We expect that the seminar will run from 10:00 AM until at least 3:00 PM.
Roger W.
Bristol Bronze
401-625-5224
branchedoakmarina@alltel.net
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Jay Bonahoom
how to get in touch with Defender??????
I am in need of bronze Nylocks. Can you post the number for defender for me and others.
Thanks
JB
Bonahooms@yahoo.com
Thanks
JB
Bonahooms@yahoo.com
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Ken Coit
Defender Industries
800-628-8225 or see the link below.
Ken
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com
Ken
Jay Bonahoom wrote: I am in need of bronze Nylocks. Can you post the number for defender for me and others.
Thanks
JB
parfaitNOSPAM@nc.rr.com