I just bought a 1974 Cape Dory Typhoon weekender. Has been sitting on a trailer for a few years (I assume) and now sits in my backyard. I emptied everything that was inside and wonder how water drains from the cockpit. It appears to me that a hose on both sides feeds it to the bilge pump. With a dead battery, and bad wiring, this pump won't work until I get to fix it. There are also faucets on the drain hoses, and I don't know why. Last night we had a downpour for several hours. Does all that water go towards the pump and sits there?
Sure appreciate any help I can get!
Ton
ton_zwaard@agilent.com
CD Typhoon - how does water drain from the cockpit?
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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Joel
Re: CD Typhoon - how does water drain from the cockpit?
The cockpit scuppers run via the hoses to seacocks connected to thru hulls below the water line. The water drains out to the sea. The seacocks are your safety should the hose spring a leak thereby letting the sea into your bilge and sinking the boat.
Maintain them. Mine are frozen and until I replace them, that's a major concern.
Enjoy your Ty. They're great boats. This board is a great resource.
Joel
s/y Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
bondy_joelNOSPAM@hotmail.com
Maintain them. Mine are frozen and until I replace them, that's a major concern.
Enjoy your Ty. They're great boats. This board is a great resource.
Joel
s/y Pokey II
'73 Ty #549
Bayside, NY
bondy_joelNOSPAM@hotmail.com
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Bill Bloxham
Safely, we hope
Hi Ton
This could be a dangerous situation or perhaps a misconception.
The thru-hulls to which your hoses should connect are located about 8" rearward of the scupper drains in your Ty cockpit. Look on the bottom of the boat under where the scupper drains come out the bottom of the cockpit, go back 8" and outboard about 6". If there are no thru hulls (you can identify them by a threaded "pipe" about 1 1/4" in diameter and about 3" long) the previous owner may have removed them (unlikely). The thru hulls may be topped by gate valves or some newer/better type of valve.
If this is where your faucets are, see if they open, and pour a little water in the drains. If it runs out the bottom of the boat outside then the scupper system then the system is working the correct way. If not I would advise you to install thru hulls, seacocks or ball valves (let's hear it, guys) and new hoses. You want to drain the cockpit overboard if you are taking on water, not into the boat where the bilge pump system may fail.
I have a system that I tried and like in my Ty that has received both good acceptance and passionate criticism from this board. For a discussion of the pro’s and con’s search the board for Mike Zucker’s “Re: Typhoon question: are ball valves safe?” . It’s interesting. You can make up your own mind. If the system appeals to you, try this:
All sizes are ¾”
West Marine Part # Part
402570 bronze thru-hull
106783 45 degree bronze “ell”, Female to Male
195420 “Appolo” brand bronze ball valve
113003 Grocco full flow tailpiece (uses 1” ID hose)
282285 1” ID hose (buy a 3’ section)
115655 8 ea. #316 Stainless hose clamps (don’t use the cheap price ones – they rust too quick; and double clamp hoses at both ends)
Put in in parts order (ell between thru-hull and ball valve) with teflon plumber’s tape. I used 3M5200 on the thru-hull to hull joint(next time I would use 4200). Total cost six years ago was about $120, and the scuppers will drain long leaf pine needles right through. Took about two easy hours once I figured out the parts (which took days to do). You might want to put all the bronze together before tightening the thru-hull coller so you can make sure the ball valve levers can clear everything and test for full-open to full-close lever swing.
Good luck.
Bill
mmmmmmbill@earthlink.net
This could be a dangerous situation or perhaps a misconception.
The thru-hulls to which your hoses should connect are located about 8" rearward of the scupper drains in your Ty cockpit. Look on the bottom of the boat under where the scupper drains come out the bottom of the cockpit, go back 8" and outboard about 6". If there are no thru hulls (you can identify them by a threaded "pipe" about 1 1/4" in diameter and about 3" long) the previous owner may have removed them (unlikely). The thru hulls may be topped by gate valves or some newer/better type of valve.
If this is where your faucets are, see if they open, and pour a little water in the drains. If it runs out the bottom of the boat outside then the scupper system then the system is working the correct way. If not I would advise you to install thru hulls, seacocks or ball valves (let's hear it, guys) and new hoses. You want to drain the cockpit overboard if you are taking on water, not into the boat where the bilge pump system may fail.
I have a system that I tried and like in my Ty that has received both good acceptance and passionate criticism from this board. For a discussion of the pro’s and con’s search the board for Mike Zucker’s “Re: Typhoon question: are ball valves safe?” . It’s interesting. You can make up your own mind. If the system appeals to you, try this:
All sizes are ¾”
West Marine Part # Part
402570 bronze thru-hull
106783 45 degree bronze “ell”, Female to Male
195420 “Appolo” brand bronze ball valve
113003 Grocco full flow tailpiece (uses 1” ID hose)
282285 1” ID hose (buy a 3’ section)
115655 8 ea. #316 Stainless hose clamps (don’t use the cheap price ones – they rust too quick; and double clamp hoses at both ends)
Put in in parts order (ell between thru-hull and ball valve) with teflon plumber’s tape. I used 3M5200 on the thru-hull to hull joint(next time I would use 4200). Total cost six years ago was about $120, and the scuppers will drain long leaf pine needles right through. Took about two easy hours once I figured out the parts (which took days to do). You might want to put all the bronze together before tightening the thru-hull coller so you can make sure the ball valve levers can clear everything and test for full-open to full-close lever swing.
Good luck.
Bill
mmmmmmbill@earthlink.net