Attaching jib sheets

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Mario

Attaching jib sheets

Post by Mario »

We're picking up Rhapsody's brand new 135 jib this weekend and it prompts me to ask a question about attaching jib sheets.

In the past we've always tied on separate sheets using bowlines. However, even with cheapie Davis shroud rollers the knots often hang on the shrouds when tacking, requiring a hard tug and much swearing. I've read that using shackles is not advisable. How about one very long sheet that's doubled and looped through and knotted at the clew?

Mario
s/v Rhapsody
CD30 #252
Windmill Point, VA



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Hanalei

Re: Rams head knot and....

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Captain Commanding Rapsody,

I use a simple rams head knot on a double length sheet, and then simply seize it. I won't move, and there is nothing to get caught.

Dave Stump Hanalei
Steve Alarcon

Re: Attaching jib sheets

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Mario,

That's the way we have always done it, and it works just great. The jib always tacks right though with no problem.

Steve Alarcon
CD36 Tenacity



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Dana

And we just....

Post by Dana »

make a loop from a single line at the center...pass it thru the clew...pass both ends of the line through the eye of the loop...that's it...

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Mario wrote: We're picking up Rhapsody's brand new 135 jib this weekend and it prompts me to ask a question about attaching jib sheets.

In the past we've always tied on separate sheets using bowlines. However, even with cheapie Davis shroud rollers the knots often hang on the shrouds when tacking, requiring a hard tug and much swearing. I've read that using shackles is not advisable. How about one very long sheet that's doubled and looped through and knotted at the clew?

Mario
s/v Rhapsody
CD30 #252
Windmill Point, VA


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Bill Goldsmith

Re: Attaching jib sheets

Post by Bill Goldsmith »

Mario,

There was an identical discussion a couple of weeks ago with some insightful answers. The traditonal method is to tie two bowlines. Larry Demers (if I recall correctly) simply loops a double length through the clew cringle and says it does not slip. I plan to try that method this year. Others have tied a clove hitch with two equal lengths.

Bill Goldsmith
Mario wrote: We're picking up Rhapsody's brand new 135 jib this weekend and it prompts me to ask a question about attaching jib sheets.

In the past we've always tied on separate sheets using bowlines. However, even with cheapie Davis shroud rollers the knots often hang on the shrouds when tacking, requiring a hard tug and much swearing. I've read that using shackles is not advisable. How about one very long sheet that's doubled and looped through and knotted at the clew?

Mario
s/v Rhapsody
CD30 #252
Windmill Point, VA


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Al Smith

Re: Attaching jib sheets

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Bill Goldsmith wrote: Mario,

There was an identical discussion a couple of weeks ago with some insightful answers. The traditonal method is to tie two bowlines. Larry Demers (if I recall correctly) simply loops a double length through the clew cringle and says it does not slip. I plan to try that method this year. Others have tied a clove hitch with two equal lengths.

Bill Goldsmith
Mario wrote: s/v Rhapsody
CD30 #252
Windmill Point, VA
Bill, I did the same thing on our previous boat, looping the one long line through the clew forming a loop and then feeding the two bitter ends through the loop. Tightening it made it very secure. The only problem came at the end of the season when I had to coil that long length of line!!

Al Smith



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Mario

Re: Attaching jib sheets: Part II

Post by Mario »

Thanks for the helpful replies. I knew I could count on you.

Now--what size line are you using? 3/8" or 1/2"? And on a 30, how long is the line you are doubling? 90'?

(As you can tell, I'm considering a trip to West Marine.)

Thanks again--

Mario
Mario wrote: We're picking up Rhapsody's brand new 135 jib this weekend and it prompts me to ask a question about attaching jib sheets.

In the past we've always tied on separate sheets using bowlines. However, even with cheapie Davis shroud rollers the knots often hang on the shrouds when tacking, requiring a hard tug and much swearing. I've read that using shackles is not advisable. How about one very long sheet that's doubled and looped through and knotted at the clew?

Mario
s/v Rhapsody
CD30 #252
Windmill Point, VA


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Steve Alarcon

Re: Attaching jib sheets: Part II

Post by Steve Alarcon »

Mario,

It kinda depends on if you fave a furler or not. You'd want it a little longer with a furler so you can get several turns around the furled sail for security. I have a furler and only use c. 70' on my CD36, so am sure you would be fine with about 60. However, if you go to the top of this board you'll find a link to down load the manual and it'll tell you every thing you want to know.

Steve Alarcon
CD36 Tenacity
Seattle



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