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Lee

Another "newbie" question...

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This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!
Russ Campbell

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Russ Campbell »

Lee, You could probably get by with putting plywood under the stands. The weight of the boat all rests on the keel. The jack stands are only to hold the boat upright. As such there is not that much weight on them. However and this is IMPORTANT-- chain the jackstands together under the boat. Do not skip this step. If the boat leans to one side the jack stand can easily kick out and then the whole boat will go over on its side. Good luck

Russ


Lee wrote: This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!


russ@claybycampbell.com
Jon

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Jon »

Lee,

I store my CD25 on my lawn every winter. The keel sits on two sets of of pressure treated 4x6s stacked 3 high. I use 5 stands, and each leg of each stand has a 6 inch square of pressure treated 3/4" plywood under it to keep the stands from sinking into the dirt. Be sure to keep the stands chained to the stand on the opposite side, as Russ suggested.

Cheers,
Jon
CD25 Sovereign
Scott Ritchey

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Scott Ritchey »

You need to use plywood under the stands even if you pave with asphalt. The metal edges at the bottom of the stands can sink right into the asphalt on a warm day.
Lee wrote: This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!
cvaughan

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Lee wrote: This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!
And whatever you do, don't tie the lines from the cover to the jackstands. If the wind gets under the cover it can pull the stands out from under the boat--very messy.



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Rick Rosenberger

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Rick Rosenberger »

Bear in mind that the stands do not support the weight of the boat. the blocks you put under the keel are meant for this purpose. I have never in the various places "from tar driveways to gravel and the dirt floor in my fathers barn to grass at the boatyard" used anything under my boatstands, the chains holding them in pairs is the most important item. Heck when the hauler comes they remove all but the bow stand and the boat stays right where it should.


Lee wrote: This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!


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Mike Thorpe

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Mike Thorpe »

In addition to all that has been said: make sure the boat is set up so that the cockpit will drain and check the stands for tightness every couple of weeks and immediatly after any heavy rain. They do tend to settle.

Mike Thorpe
s/v Journeys En
Lee wrote: This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!


mthorpe@capecod.net
Chris Anderson

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Chris Anderson »

Jon,

How is your boat unloaded from the trailer upon delivery
to your house? I assume the trailer has a crane or lift.
Is this cost less than storing it at a yard for the winter.

Thanks,
Chris
Jon

Re: Another "newbie" question...

Post by Jon »

Chris,

Having the boat hauled, moved to the house, then hauled & launched again (combined) costs the same as having her hauled stored and launched in a boat yard. The only difference is the boat is just a few steps away, rather than a few miles. It makes a world of difference when doing projects on the boat.

The trucking company (Marblehead Trading Co) has a special boat trailer with hydraulic lifting pads that lift the hull from below the waterline. The lifters then pivot backwards and place the boat on the blocks and hold it there. The rear stands are then put in place. A removable cross beam on the trailer is taken off (so it's no longer trapped between the blocking)and the truck pulls forward. The front stands are put under the boat and chained, and the cross member of the trailer is bolted back in. The truck comes back in 6 months.

It's a pretty clean operation.

Jon
CD25 Sovereign



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Brace Tallents

Re: Another "newbie" question...

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Lee wrote: This one will sound pretty stupid, but please - I'm new to this (at least in the sense that I've gotten myself into a boat I can't trailer any longer behind my car!) My new-to-me 27' is being stored at the old owner's house this winter on jack-stands in his driveway. I will take delivery this spring, but at the end of the season I have to store it myself. The jack stands come with the boat and my question is - do I have to have a paver pour a new stretch of asphalt for me or can I put the jack stands right onto the dirt ground? There are 5 stands currently being used - my assumption is that I have to have the pavement poured, but it seems costly... The surface area of the stand bases seems to be large enough to not settle too far into the ground at first. My concern is what might happen as the ground shifts over time due to settling/weather - or worse, if there is a series of soaking storms. Any thoughts?? Thanks!
I got really tired of paying the price of storage or transport to my house so I built a cradle and put it on a home made trailer . The trailer is a mobile home frame & axils . Works great and cost less than $500.00 to build . I can pull my CD25 home with my 99 Ford Ranger . Although it takes 12 miles to get to 40mph ! There is nothing better to chase away the winter blues than to fire up the heater in the boat and have a beer or two wile watching it snow out the portholes .



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