does anyone have a neat way to change tranny oil by yourself? - i've used a little funnel for the last 10 years and get the job done, with me sort of upside down in the engine compartment, but there must be a better way
len
md.frel@nwh.org
changing tranny oil
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Kevin LeMans
Re: changing tranny oil
Len,
I use the same (hand) suction pump that I change the crankcase oil with...... It has a 1/4" hose that fits down the dipstick tube, which easily goes down inside the transmission.
KL
lemans@gte.net
I use the same (hand) suction pump that I change the crankcase oil with...... It has a 1/4" hose that fits down the dipstick tube, which easily goes down inside the transmission.
KL
len wrote: does anyone have a neat way to change tranny oil by yourself? - i've used a little funnel for the last 10 years and get the job done, with me sort of upside down in the engine compartment, but there must be a better way
len
lemans@gte.net
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len
Re: changing tranny oil
kevin
i do the same thing to empty the tranny and then refill with a little funnel - do you do it from inside the engine compartment or by leaning across the engine?
len
md.frel@nwh.org
i do the same thing to empty the tranny and then refill with a little funnel - do you do it from inside the engine compartment or by leaning across the engine?
len
md.frel@nwh.org
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Ken Coit
Re: changing tranny oil
Len,
On Parfait, a 36, I lay on the quarterberth to get to my tranny. I leave the suction tank on the cabin sole and once I have pumped the tank, I just take the hose to the filler plug/dipstick across the engine.
We have a permanent pump on the engine and I simply lead a hose from it to a container on the cabin sole.
Ken
PPPparfait@nc.rr.com
On Parfait, a 36, I lay on the quarterberth to get to my tranny. I leave the suction tank on the cabin sole and once I have pumped the tank, I just take the hose to the filler plug/dipstick across the engine.
We have a permanent pump on the engine and I simply lead a hose from it to a container on the cabin sole.
Ken
len wrote: kevin
i do the same thing to empty the tranny and then refill with a little funnel - do you do it from inside the engine compartment or by leaning across the engine?
len
PPPparfait@nc.rr.com
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Ken Coit
Re: changing tranny oil
Len,
I lusted after a 25D for a long time, and then a 30"B" with the forward head. Once I started looking at engine compartments, my desire for an extra foot or six grew exponentially. I can actually get all 220 pounds of me into the "engine compartment" but it is very crowded and you really can't reach much once you are there. Boats with large hatches in the cockpit sole also became very attractive, but we resisted, holding out for seaworthyness.
Ken
PPPparfait@nc.rr.com
I lusted after a 25D for a long time, and then a 30"B" with the forward head. Once I started looking at engine compartments, my desire for an extra foot or six grew exponentially. I can actually get all 220 pounds of me into the "engine compartment" but it is very crowded and you really can't reach much once you are there. Boats with large hatches in the cockpit sole also became very attractive, but we resisted, holding out for seaworthyness.
Ken
len wrote: ken
sounds easier than on the 31, an advantage of a bigger boat
len
PPPparfait@nc.rr.com
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len
Re: changing tranny oil
ken
when i bought my 31 about 10 years ago, it seemed huge - i can get into the engine compartment, basically upside down, and after a day of getting in and out of there am sore for 3 days - i can also, just barely, get into the aft cockpit locker -
len
md.frel@nwh.org
when i bought my 31 about 10 years ago, it seemed huge - i can get into the engine compartment, basically upside down, and after a day of getting in and out of there am sore for 3 days - i can also, just barely, get into the aft cockpit locker -
len
md.frel@nwh.org
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Kevin
Re: changing tranny oil
Len,len wrote: kevin
i do the same thing to empty the tranny and then refill with a little funnel - do you do it from inside the engine compartment or by leaning across the engine?
len
I'm feeling a little dumb here, like I don't get the nature of the problem. In my CD30, once you remove the two panels above and forward of the engine compartment, the transmission and v-drive are right there in your face. There's no leaning over or crawling in required. Am I missing something?
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len
Re: changing tranny oil
kevin
on the CD31 the engine has access from the front, top, and back (by way of contortions through the cockplit lockers) - i've never found a way to get to the transmission, at the back of the engine, except by crawling in the back - i've never seen the compartment on the CD30, but it sounds better - FYI when i bought my boat i found the fuel filter, on the starboard side of the engine, had never been changed! - it took me about 2 hours to get it out, with practice i could do it in 30 minutes, and a few years ago i moved it to the wall above the engine -
len
md.frel@nwh.org
on the CD31 the engine has access from the front, top, and back (by way of contortions through the cockplit lockers) - i've never found a way to get to the transmission, at the back of the engine, except by crawling in the back - i've never seen the compartment on the CD30, but it sounds better - FYI when i bought my boat i found the fuel filter, on the starboard side of the engine, had never been changed! - it took me about 2 hours to get it out, with practice i could do it in 30 minutes, and a few years ago i moved it to the wall above the engine -
len
md.frel@nwh.org
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Leo MacDonald
Re: changing tranny oil
Kevin,
The 31 has an inline drive - the tranny is aft of the engine. Changing oil is easier on the v-drive, but hand cranking is a b_ _ _ _.
F/W, Leo
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The 31 has an inline drive - the tranny is aft of the engine. Changing oil is easier on the v-drive, but hand cranking is a b_ _ _ _.
F/W, Leo
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Hanalei
Re: How about the easy way.....
Captains,
My first question would be WHY? A transmission is NOT like an engine crankcase. The oil is NOT contaminated by the combustion process or by any air drawn into the engine. Your transmission oil should last for years without being changed in my estimation. Now, with that said, level is a concern! If you have a very slow leak, you may not even notice it. Your transmission goes dry, and THAT is a problem. It will lock up, and you WILL buy a new transmission!
Equipment to use: Buy an Oil Boy oil pump. Cost about $50.00 from WM or the like. Use it to change your crankcase oil through the dipstick, very easy, and you shouldn't even get oil on your hands, well, maybe when ya change the filter. Takes seconds, the thing really works!!! It WILL pump cold 30 weight oil! (Well, maybe not where Larry lives!)
If ya have a Universal 18, 14 hp diesel with straight tranny, fit yourself in over the engine, undo the fill plug(do not lose the copper gasket, it is hard to see!), stick the probe to her from the Oil Boy, have your mate give her a couple pumps and ya are done. When you refill the transmission or are like some that fill their tranny full up for the winter, and you overfill it, here is what to do. Look at the dipstick, hold the Oil Boy tube at the same length as the full mark on the dipstick, insert said probe, have first mate give a couple pumps and the level will go down to just the fill mark!
Hey, this is an easy routine maintenance item. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist or a Nuclear Power person to do it(upps, shouldn't have said that, I am a NUCLEAR POWER person!!!!!
FWIW.....I remain, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE!
My first question would be WHY? A transmission is NOT like an engine crankcase. The oil is NOT contaminated by the combustion process or by any air drawn into the engine. Your transmission oil should last for years without being changed in my estimation. Now, with that said, level is a concern! If you have a very slow leak, you may not even notice it. Your transmission goes dry, and THAT is a problem. It will lock up, and you WILL buy a new transmission!
Equipment to use: Buy an Oil Boy oil pump. Cost about $50.00 from WM or the like. Use it to change your crankcase oil through the dipstick, very easy, and you shouldn't even get oil on your hands, well, maybe when ya change the filter. Takes seconds, the thing really works!!! It WILL pump cold 30 weight oil! (Well, maybe not where Larry lives!)
If ya have a Universal 18, 14 hp diesel with straight tranny, fit yourself in over the engine, undo the fill plug(do not lose the copper gasket, it is hard to see!), stick the probe to her from the Oil Boy, have your mate give her a couple pumps and ya are done. When you refill the transmission or are like some that fill their tranny full up for the winter, and you overfill it, here is what to do. Look at the dipstick, hold the Oil Boy tube at the same length as the full mark on the dipstick, insert said probe, have first mate give a couple pumps and the level will go down to just the fill mark!
Hey, this is an easy routine maintenance item. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist or a Nuclear Power person to do it(upps, shouldn't have said that, I am a NUCLEAR POWER person!!!!!
FWIW.....I remain, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE!
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Bill Goldsmith
Re: How about the easy way.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>....... I am a NUCLEAR POWER person!!!!!
Hey Capt. Stump,
This is a new revelation. I have heard of diesel inboards and gas outboards for CDs, but .......you have fitted a small reactor in Hanalei!!! What's the horsepower? Prop pitch and size? Does it also power hot/cold pressure water? Are you considering re-christening her as Nautilus? What'll they think of next for Cape Dorys??? >;^)
Hey Capt. Stump,
This is a new revelation. I have heard of diesel inboards and gas outboards for CDs, but .......you have fitted a small reactor in Hanalei!!! What's the horsepower? Prop pitch and size? Does it also power hot/cold pressure water? Are you considering re-christening her as Nautilus? What'll they think of next for Cape Dorys??? >;^)
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Ken Coit
Where is Nautilis??
Does anyone know what happened to the Nautilis? I was aboard her as a kid back in the 60's.
Ken
PPPparfait@nc.rr.com
Ken
Bill Goldsmith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>....... I am a NUCLEAR POWER person!!!!!
Hey Capt. Stump,
This is a new revelation. I have heard of diesel inboards and gas outboards for CDs, but .......you have fitted a small reactor in Hanalei!!! What's the horsepower? Prop pitch and size? Does it also power hot/cold pressure water? Are you considering re-christening her as Nautilus? What'll they think of next for Cape Dorys??? >;^)
PPPparfait@nc.rr.com
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Captain Coit,
Re: General Dynamics Electric Boat....
Captain Coit,
The USSN Nautilus has recently been moved from her permanent site in/near the Groton Submarine Base to General Dynamics Electric Boat for a refit! Did you know, she was designated many years ago, a National Historic Landmark, hence her permanent berth in Groton at the Submarine Base. She is open to the public, and voice recorder guided tours are provided. They did a nice job with her.
You were aboard her in the sixties? Arg Matey, so was a certain Hospital Corpsman (HM-3) named David Stump(1965). However, I was only aboard her briefly, as she was tied up alongside the USS Fulton(submarine tender), were she was assigned for a brief port call as I recall, and a crewman dropped a hatch cover on his leg(smashed it ALL up!), and I was in the detail that pulled him off of the Nautilas and got him to the hospital. Didn't make it any farther than the wardroom, as she was still a "secret" vessel in a lot of respects.
She may be a site to see during the Eastern Long Island Sound randevous this summer...........your servant.....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !
The USSN Nautilus has recently been moved from her permanent site in/near the Groton Submarine Base to General Dynamics Electric Boat for a refit! Did you know, she was designated many years ago, a National Historic Landmark, hence her permanent berth in Groton at the Submarine Base. She is open to the public, and voice recorder guided tours are provided. They did a nice job with her.
You were aboard her in the sixties? Arg Matey, so was a certain Hospital Corpsman (HM-3) named David Stump(1965). However, I was only aboard her briefly, as she was tied up alongside the USS Fulton(submarine tender), were she was assigned for a brief port call as I recall, and a crewman dropped a hatch cover on his leg(smashed it ALL up!), and I was in the detail that pulled him off of the Nautilas and got him to the hospital. Didn't make it any farther than the wardroom, as she was still a "secret" vessel in a lot of respects.
She may be a site to see during the Eastern Long Island Sound randevous this summer...........your servant.....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
CD-30C
CDSOA Number ONE ! ! !
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Leo MacDonald
USS Nautilus (SSN571) is at the Subase, Groton, CT
Hi Ken,Ken Coit wrote: Does anyone know what happened to the Nautilis? I was aboard her as a kid back in the 60's.
The USS Nautilus (SSN571) is permanently assigned to the Submarine Museum at the Subase, Groton, CT.
She was decommissioned around 1985 at the San Francisco Navy Yard, towed around via the Panama Canal and up the Thames River to the Subase, Groton. There was so many 'small boats' on the Thames the day she came home you could almost walk from shore to shore. (As you might have guessed, I was on a small boat in the river that day.)
We (the Navy) worked on her for two years to modify the interior limiting access to the security areas and to seal of the access to the power plant. Nuclear Power info is classified for 20 - 30 years after it's last used. With a S1W Westinghouse Reactor plant it's 1953 technology (still light-years ahead of the Russians.)
Around 1987/88 she was moved from the Subase piers to the Submarine Museum and opened to visitors with direct access for the public (and free!)
Fair Winds,
Leo MacDonald
ETC USN (Ret.)
'Evening Light' CD33 #38
W/8 weeks to her delivery sail home (I think Mike T. volunteered just to watch her sail - you know, study the competition!!)
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