working jib

[Paul Grecay]

I don't often write into this board, but I read it every day...lots of good information. I have a specific question about replacing my working jib (which is dead). I got a couple of quotes...one from North for $1,700 and another one from Eggers in South Amboy, NJ for about $1,100 (they do good work so I have no doubt about their quality). Anyone have a suggestion where I can have a sail made?

I appreciate any ideas,

Paul
1976 CD 28 Peapod



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[Steve Alarcon]

Paul,

I ordered a complete suit of sails for our CD36 from UK Sails in Sindey, British Columbia, Canada (about 2 hours north of us by car). They came and measured the boat, and will drop ship the finished sails to our house. This allows me to avoid 9% sails tax (pun), plus their quote was next to lowest of the 8 quotes that I got. I had UK sails on our CD30, and they seemed to be of pretty good quality.

The measurement for a head sail is pretty straight forward, so even if you had to do it yourself you could approach it with confidence.

Steve Alarcon
CD36 Tenacity
Seattle





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[Ed Haley]

I had a mainsail made by a Canadian firm in Kingston, Ontario. The loft has had quite a bit of experience making sails all over the world - including one designs and club racers. The main cost me about half what was quoted by US lofts since the exchange rate is so high for $US. If you're interested in checking out the Kingston Sail Loft, give them a call at 613-531-8909. I hope to have a new genny made by them maybe next year.

Ed Haley
Captain Mokita
CD330 #1



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[Catherine Monaghan]

Paul,

Where are you located? Since you've gotten a quote from Eggers, I'm assuming you are in NJ or NY???

I've just ordered a new mainsail from Eggers. I've been using them since 1995 for the repair and cleaning of our sails, but this is the first time I've purchased a sail from them. All of Realization's original sails were made by the UK sail loft on City Island, NY -- including the cruising spinnaker (UK Flasher) that I purchased in 1996. We have also been very happy with the UK sails and the service we received when we purchased the spinnaker. The sailmaker from UK hand delivered the spinnaker and sailed with us to show us how to use it. So I'd recommend them too. You can find more info regarding UK at:

<a href="http://www.uksailmakers.com/">http://ww ... rs.com/</a>

UK International
175 City Island Ave.
City Island, NY 10464
Tel: 718-885-2028
Fax: 718-885-9236
E-mail: <a href="mailto:ukinternational@uksailmakers.com">ukinternational@uksailmakers.com</a>
Butch Ulmer & Adam Loory


There's also a <a href="http://www.doylesails.com/">Doyle Sailmakers</a> loft on City Island and at Huntington Station on Long Island as well.

You'll find a list of NJ sailmakers at:

<a href="http://www.sailmiami.com/Sailmakers/nj. ... /nj.htm</a>

and NY sailmakers at:

<a href="http://www.sailmiami.com/Sailmakers/ny. ... /ny.htm</a>


Good luck.
Cathy
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay



catherine_monaghanNOSPAM@merck.com

[Kerry Deare]

... I have a specific question about replacing my working jib ... I got a couple of quotes...one from North for $1,700 and another one from Eggers in South Amboy, NJ for about $1,100 ... Anyone have a suggestion where I can have a sail made?

1976 CD 28 Peapod

I have a 28, so I am wondering what you mean by "working jib." Do you mean the club-footed jib, something like a 110% lapper, a 130 genoa, etc.? The answer doesn't affect my suggestions very much, but it makes a difference when trying to evaluate pricing mentioned in your post.

I would strongly suggest that if at all possible, you work with a local loft. They are in the best position to know your primary sailing area. More than likely, if they have been around a while, they have already built sails for a boat like yours. This way you can check with another boat owner about the loft itself, the kind of service they provided, whether they can come to the boat to check out the job, etc. Sails last a long time and they are very expensive, so it pays to go the extra mile with your sailmaker.

Having pontificated more than enough, I would recommend you check out Moorhouse Sails in Medforsd NJ (if that's pretty local to you). Skip Moorhouse in on the Web somewhere. If you can't find him, I will send you particulars.



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[Don Carr]

Generally a working jib is cut to approximately 95% LP. The qoutes you got for a 'working' jib seem high, actually very high for dacron WJ on a 28. What LP were they qouting?



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[Kerry Deare]

Generally a working jib is cut to approximately 95% LP ...

I think there is room for debate about this, which is why I raised the issue in my earlier post. If you look in one of the standard references, Wally Ross's "Sail Power," you will find on page 39:

" ... If the sail doesn't overlap the mast, or only has a slight overlap, as in a working jib, ..."

Obviously a sail with even a "slight overlap" is larger than LP 95%.

On my 28 foot sloop, my sailmaker likes to refer to the Number 3 (110% genoa) as the "working jib." I think this is merely semaitics, but hey, if it keeps the sailmaker happy it's OK with me.



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