Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
demers@sgi.com
RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
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john doyle
Re: RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
WOW, glad I'm heading home to a wood stove. Thanks for the linkLarry DeMers wrote: Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
John CD31 #18
Bonnie Blue
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Warren Kaplan
Re: RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
Larry,Larry DeMers wrote: Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
I wonder if your ears pop from the change in altitude from the trough to the crest! Ha! I'll tell ya'...I'd be swallowing so hard I'd never know it. Looking at that picture makes me think of a mountain that has somehow put to sea! Those guys are lucky it was only a window that got smashed and that they are still around to talk about it. Those 4 foot waves in Long Island Sound (on a windy day) somehow seem less ominous! Ha!
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
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mike mascaros
Re: RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
very impresive...kind of a perfect storm deal...can our CDs take that size water...sure some small 30 some footers been there...scary...Larry DeMers wrote: Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
so next month will be on a cruise from ensenada to hilo...wondering about those waves...well if i see any thing like that and live thru it will send you folks a report...
good photo Mr.DE MERS...thanks
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M. R. Bober
Surf's up! REALLY UP!!!!
Time to put in that third reef.
Every best wish.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Every best wish.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
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Mike Thompson
Re: RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
The first photo looks as if the camera was placed on a 'flat' surface
and the boat is rocked over to port. The 'steep wave' is mostly
the tilted horizon.
This is not to belittle the storm which I believe was horrendous
but to point out that photos of waves 'flatten' them. This is why
in the film Perfect Storm, the vertical was scaled by say x5
so that the audience would believe the waves were serious.
Mike
tmike@ma.ultranet.com
and the boat is rocked over to port. The 'steep wave' is mostly
the tilted horizon.
This is not to belittle the storm which I believe was horrendous
but to point out that photos of waves 'flatten' them. This is why
in the film Perfect Storm, the vertical was scaled by say x5
so that the audience would believe the waves were serious.
Mike
Larry DeMers wrote: Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
tmike@ma.ultranet.com
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Larry DeMers
Re: RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
May look that way, but that is a real photo from the contact I have. The ship is on the wave, trying hard to get over it, but is sliding backwards! with full port rudder. So the deck is canted too. No, the smooth slope that goes forever down, and the fact that the ships sides are what, normally 50 ft. above the water anyway, yet the rail is buried here..I doubt that the photo was made to look worse than it is.
The source of the photo is a Maritime Attorneys web site that specializes in shipping disasters etc. They were documenting the wave height to the insurance concerns, as they lost deck cargo.
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
demers@sgi.com
The source of the photo is a Maritime Attorneys web site that specializes in shipping disasters etc. They were documenting the wave height to the insurance concerns, as they lost deck cargo.
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Mike Thompson wrote: The first photo looks as if the camera was placed on a 'flat' surface
and the boat is rocked over to port. The 'steep wave' is mostly
the tilted horizon.
This is not to belittle the storm which I believe was horrendous
but to point out that photos of waves 'flatten' them. This is why
in the film Perfect Storm, the vertical was scaled by say x5
so that the audience would believe the waves were serious.
Mike
Larry DeMers wrote: Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
demers@sgi.com
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Larry DeMers
Re: RE:BIG WAVES> Pacific Ocean this time..100+ft.
Hee..popping ears would be the least of my worries..I would be more concerned with how to walk around in now really baggy pants that smell badly, and look 'soiled' shall I say. yikes.
I don't see how a Cape Dory of any size could survive that 100-120 ft. wave. The speed that our boats would get to as it slalomed down the wave front and into the bottom of the next wave would pretty much do her in me thinks..followed by the next breaking wave.
In my largest waves we ever encountered..I estimate were at 15 ft..in the anchorage!! ..we found that they were really easy to negotitate under power, and would have been fun to get into with sails up if we weren't so damn scared. They were the biggest ones I have ever been in, our boat was on a lee shore all night long and we stayed up worried about that shoreline 15 sec. away from our stern, adjusting the anchor rode to even out any chafe if there was any (none). 4 seconds to get to the top of the wave and another 3-4 to get down the front at a long angle to control speed. But that would not work on these big ones.
I have seen it written that once the waves get to over the boats length there is a lieklyhood of pitchpoling or rounding up to be capsized with the next wave front. Don't know this from personal experience yet.
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
demers@sgi.com
I don't see how a Cape Dory of any size could survive that 100-120 ft. wave. The speed that our boats would get to as it slalomed down the wave front and into the bottom of the next wave would pretty much do her in me thinks..followed by the next breaking wave.
In my largest waves we ever encountered..I estimate were at 15 ft..in the anchorage!! ..we found that they were really easy to negotitate under power, and would have been fun to get into with sails up if we weren't so damn scared. They were the biggest ones I have ever been in, our boat was on a lee shore all night long and we stayed up worried about that shoreline 15 sec. away from our stern, adjusting the anchor rode to even out any chafe if there was any (none). 4 seconds to get to the top of the wave and another 3-4 to get down the front at a long angle to control speed. But that would not work on these big ones.
I have seen it written that once the waves get to over the boats length there is a lieklyhood of pitchpoling or rounding up to be capsized with the next wave front. Don't know this from personal experience yet.
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Warren Kaplan wrote:Larry,Larry DeMers wrote: Well, for the 'big wave' afficionados out there, I present the best ones i have seen in a while..check out the site below.
Cheers..and stay safe!
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30
I wonder if your ears pop from the change in altitude from the trough to the crest! Ha! I'll tell ya'...I'd be swallowing so hard I'd never know it. Looking at that picture makes me think of a mountain that has somehow put to sea! Those guys are lucky it was only a window that got smashed and that they are still around to talk about it. Those 4 foot waves in Long Island Sound (on a windy day) somehow seem less ominous! Ha!
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
demers@sgi.com
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Don Carr
Wind was pretty big too...
Not to mention that these were typhoon/hurricane force winds. I think the rigging might be a bit stressed too. If the waves didn't capsize a CD the wind just might. 85 knots is some serious stuff..not from personal experience of course.
carrds@us.ibm.com
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Larry DeMers
Re: Wind was pretty big too...
Don,
One of the notations on the photos said that they were in 120 kts of wind!! This is getting serious..especially on the Pacific where there are thousands of sea miles for that wind to kick up a large wave train like that. I now have one of those pix as wallpaper on my computer.
Larry DeMers
demers@sgi.com
One of the notations on the photos said that they were in 120 kts of wind!! This is getting serious..especially on the Pacific where there are thousands of sea miles for that wind to kick up a large wave train like that. I now have one of those pix as wallpaper on my computer.
Larry DeMers
Don Carr wrote: Not to mention that these were typhoon/hurricane force winds. I think the rigging might be a bit stressed too. If the waves didn't capsize a CD the wind just might. 85 knots is some serious stuff..not from personal experience of course.
demers@sgi.com
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Mark Yashinsky
The ship looks like a tanker, not a container ship
From an earlier thread that this picture was for insurance purposes. And what about cresting the wave?!?!?! Dont know th eships length, but you dont want to be going straight over the top of the wave. Worry about snapping in two. Does this have your favorite amusement park ride beat???
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Larry DeMers
Re: The ship looks like a tanker, not a container ship
You are right..going over would seem to be an even worse problem for the Captain and boat! Yimminee! ..and it does look like a tanker or ore boat. I would not want to have that choice I guess. THe web site was mainly shipping disasters investigated by the lawyers..most had shipping containers on deck, and they talked about how many thousand are lost per major storm etc. Makes me wonder what is out there ahead of you, unseen but still dangerous. Of course, on Superior, that is not a concern in reality. But we will not always be on Superior (hint).
Larry DeMers
demers@sgi.com
Larry DeMers
Mark Yashinsky wrote: From an earlier thread that this picture was for insurance purposes. And what about cresting the wave?!?!?! Dont know th eships length, but you dont want to be going straight over the top of the wave. Worry about snapping in two. Does this have your favorite amusement park ride beat???
demers@sgi.com
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John
Re: Wind was pretty big too...
For those of you that have not read the Perfect Storm I recommend it, if big waves and storms interest you. Part of the book is about a sailboat that was stuck in the storm and the owner was ordered off of it by the coast guard. The two crewmembers on the boat did not need any prodding.
thekirby5@aol.com
Larry DeMers wrote: Don,
One of the notations on the photos said that they were in 120 kts of wind!! This is getting serious..especially on the Pacific where there are thousands of sea miles for that wind to kick up a large wave train like that. I now have one of those pix as wallpaper on my computer.
Larry DeMers
Don Carr wrote: Not to mention that these were typhoon/hurricane force winds. I think the rigging might be a bit stressed too. If the waves didn't capsize a CD the wind just might. 85 knots is some serious stuff..not from personal experience of course.
thekirby5@aol.com
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Warren Kaplan
Yacht Satori
Interesting about what happened there. The yacht in question was the Satori, a Westsail 32 if memory serves. The captain was very experienced and was perfectly content to stay with his boat. The two crew members who he picked up for the trip were inexperienced and wanted to get the hell off the boat. They made the call to the coast guard. In all fairness I think I would have wanted to get off too...especially if it wasn't my boat! The coast guard slugged their way out there and he still didn't want to get off. They had the voyage declared and "unsafe trip" and he was ORDERED off the boat. Now here's the interesting thing (to me anyway) about a well founded boat like the Westsail 32. When the captain came on deck to get off, he brought a small duffle bag with some gear with him. He put it on deck or on the stern, I'm not sure, but not in the cockpit. When they took him off the boat he forgot the bag. Well, the boat rode out the storm just peachy. They found the Satori aground on the beach of one of the middle Atlantic states. All that wind and wave and guess what. The duffle bag was exactly where he left it. It never washed over board or even moved. The captain eventually sold the boat. One of the crew got into sailing and eventually bought a boat. All that panic aboard and she bought...a Westsail 32. I read an entire article about it and as far as I know its all true. Some of these great boats do better with nobody aboard than with crew aboard using storm tactics. Maybe that's why so many go below in a big storm, button up the hatch and just let the boat do its thing.John wrote: For those of you that have not read the Perfect Storm I recommend it, if big waves and storms interest you. Part of the book is about a sailboat that was stuck in the storm and the owner was ordered off of it by the coast guard. The two crewmembers on the boat did not need any prodding.
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27
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