Hi, Next season will be my first with Roberta Jane II, TY Weekender #1958. What are the advantages / disadvantages of a mooring versus a slip. She will be at a marina on the lower Hudson River where the water is relatively shallow, say seven to ten feet, a four foot tide and river current. Mooring is less expensive than a slip but would have to buy mooring block, gear, dingy, etc. Any thoughts?
Mike
mikeraehl@telocity.com
New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
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Dan Moore
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
Mike, general wisdom seems to be that a mooring is a better place for a sailing vessel. Why, I'm not quite sure. I am certain,. however, that my inaugural season with TY 583 "MEG" in Narragansett Bay, was a bit soured by having to launch and row the dingy to the mooring, then having to motor in to the dock to pick up passengers/crew.
Want to but my one-season-old mooring tackle? You can have it cheap. I'm moving to a slip!!
ride9618@ride.ri.net
Want to but my one-season-old mooring tackle? You can have it cheap. I'm moving to a slip!!
ride9618@ride.ri.net
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Eric
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
Mooring advantages: Boat always faces the wind (which keeps things cool, inhibits leaks into the cabin, and generally protects the boat from wear and tear from weather. Also, if you are of the mind that sitting at a marina with a few hundred of your closest (and often loudest, drunkest, etc. friends) is not so much fun, then you can't beat a mooring. No wear and tear from constant rubbing of fenders, deck lines, etc. Vandals don't like to row. Tends to be less expensive. When a hurricaine or big storm comes, you don't have to get in line to get out of the marina and onto a mooring (this only applies if your mooring is in a protected spot).
Marina advantages: Easy on, easy off. Don't need a tender (although many WANT a tender), membership at a marina means you can use their facilities. Don't have to buy/maintain ground tackle ($50 a year for me). Less rocking and rolling with the sea (assuming your mooring is in an exposed location).
Ultimately, I think it's a decision based more on lifestyle than anyhting else.
Eric
Marina advantages: Easy on, easy off. Don't need a tender (although many WANT a tender), membership at a marina means you can use their facilities. Don't have to buy/maintain ground tackle ($50 a year for me). Less rocking and rolling with the sea (assuming your mooring is in an exposed location).
Ultimately, I think it's a decision based more on lifestyle than anyhting else.
Eric
Dan Moore wrote: Mike, general wisdom seems to be that a mooring is a better place for a sailing vessel. Why, I'm not quite sure. I am certain,. however, that my inaugural season with TY 583 "MEG" in Narragansett Bay, was a bit soured by having to launch and row the dingy to the mooring, then having to motor in to the dock to pick up passengers/crew.
Want to but my one-season-old mooring tackle? You can have it cheap. I'm moving to a slip!!
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Warren Kaplan
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
Mike,
I asked that question for my CD27 a few months back. Go to the search function on the board and put in ..slip vs. mooring..
There was a large discussion on the pros and cons of each. The archives of this board are always worth searching as there is a wealth of information on almost any subject there.
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166
Setsail728@aol.com
I asked that question for my CD27 a few months back. Go to the search function on the board and put in ..slip vs. mooring..
There was a large discussion on the pros and cons of each. The archives of this board are always worth searching as there is a wealth of information on almost any subject there.
Warren Kaplan
Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166
Setsail728@aol.com
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Peter Bigelow
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
Having sailed a similarly sized Alberg design (Corinthian) for years on LI sound I can tell you that mooring is the way to go. Easy to sail off and on the mooring, less use of motor, etc, and less wear and tear on boat. If you have a club/launch available even better.
peterbigelow@msn.com
Eric wrote: Mooring advantages: Boat always faces the wind (which keeps things cool, inhibits leaks into the cabin, and generally protects the boat from wear and tear from weather. Also, if you are of the mind that sitting at a marina with a few hundred of your closest (and often loudest, drunkest, etc. friends) is not so much fun, then you can't beat a mooring. No wear and tear from constant rubbing of fenders, deck lines, etc. Vandals don't like to row. Tends to be less expensive. When a hurricaine or big storm comes, you don't have to get in line to get out of the marina and onto a mooring (this only applies if your mooring is in a protected spot).
Marina advantages: Easy on, easy off. Don't need a tender (although many WANT a tender), membership at a marina means you can use their facilities. Don't have to buy/maintain ground tackle ($50 a year for me). Less rocking and rolling with the sea (assuming your mooring is in an exposed location).
Ultimately, I think it's a decision based more on lifestyle than anyhting else.
Eric
Dan Moore wrote: Mike, general wisdom seems to be that a mooring is a better place for a sailing vessel. Why, I'm not quite sure. I am certain,. however, that my inaugural season with TY 583 "MEG" in Narragansett Bay, was a bit soured by having to launch and row the dingy to the mooring, then having to motor in to the dock to pick up passengers/crew.
Want to but my one-season-old mooring tackle? You can have it cheap. I'm moving to a slip!!
peterbigelow@msn.com
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Joel
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
FWIW - I vote for the mooring. I just finished my first year at a mooring (on LI Sound) after 13 years at a slip (lake). The difference in wear & tear is appreciable. While I was always facing into the wind at the mooring, I don't know with the river's current that you'll be able to count on that, though.
Enjoy her! She's a great boat.
Joel
s/y Pokey II
'73 Ty Weekender #549
Bayside, NY
Enjoy her! She's a great boat.
Joel
s/y Pokey II
'73 Ty Weekender #549
Bayside, NY
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Serge Zimberoff
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
I think the logic implicit in Dan's reply outweighs the lengthy mechanical discussion that can go on seemingly forever. If you have a choice of slip vs mooring, and the cost difference doesn't impose an undue burden, in my opinion slip wins every time.
serge@srtrop.com
serge@srtrop.com
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brian
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
Last year was our first year at a marina after keeping our boat on a mooring for over 10 years.
Logistically it is better, but sailing wise it's a big compromise. Although I did manage to sail into our slip once this summer/fall, much to the dismay of the powerboaters-they account for about 90% of the boats in this marina. Confident now anytime it blows out of the N NNW we can sail off and up to the slip.
Ultimately, at the end of the day the beer is just as enjoyable at a slip as it is on a mooring.
Brian
S/V Mahalo
CD 28 #326
brian@harvardthermal.com
Logistically it is better, but sailing wise it's a big compromise. Although I did manage to sail into our slip once this summer/fall, much to the dismay of the powerboaters-they account for about 90% of the boats in this marina. Confident now anytime it blows out of the N NNW we can sail off and up to the slip.
Ultimately, at the end of the day the beer is just as enjoyable at a slip as it is on a mooring.
Brian
S/V Mahalo
CD 28 #326
brian@harvardthermal.com
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Harris
Re: New TY owner, Mooring or Slip?
two factors that I didnt see mentioned. first is the size of the boat and second is the frequency of usage. As most marinas charge by the linear foot...........docking an 18 footer isnt very cost effective as my assumption is that you are going to mostly daysail and not stay aboard. A 23 footer is less than 33% more cost to dock but 100% more living space. If you stay aboard........loading gear, having shore power and walking to the head and showers makes a slip attractive.
Mooring definitely is a little more time and labor consuming. It seems to preclude the frequent short duration sails.........or merely sitting on the boat. Having my boat moored......I often got to the yacht club and end up gazing at it form shore.rather than going aboard. You end up maintaining the boat less because of this.
IMHO mooring wins hands down though. There is something more satisfying about it, you sail off the mooring, the solotude cant be beat, the boat is safer in storms, and it looks so pretty to gaze at it as you row ashore. Plus in many locations it can be done for free.
hg@myhost.com
Mooring definitely is a little more time and labor consuming. It seems to preclude the frequent short duration sails.........or merely sitting on the boat. Having my boat moored......I often got to the yacht club and end up gazing at it form shore.rather than going aboard. You end up maintaining the boat less because of this.
IMHO mooring wins hands down though. There is something more satisfying about it, you sail off the mooring, the solotude cant be beat, the boat is safer in storms, and it looks so pretty to gaze at it as you row ashore. Plus in many locations it can be done for free.
hg@myhost.com