It's time for that annual quandary - do I shrink wrap her (my CD25)? tarp and wooden frame? tarp and electrical conduit? tarp and pvc piping? Tried the pvc last year but, apparently, between the harmonic set up by the wind and flapping tarp, plus near to sub-zero temps, the frame (2" pvc pipe) shattered (and I mean shattered!) Has anyone designed/constructed a foolproof, easy to set up and strike, frame over which to lay your tarp? If so, your kind advices (pictures, sketches, words, laughter, tears) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy Holidays. John, s/v "Star"
jlreizian@snet.net
Frames for boat covers
Moderator: Jim Walsh
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D. Stump,Hanalei
Re: Frames for boat covers
Captainn Reizian,
Just spoke my shipyard manager and he said that to shrink wrap Hanalei, CD-30C, would cost $17 dollars per foot! PLUS $30 for a door AND $20 for two vents!!!! They supply the frame - Oh! GOOD ! ! That all works out to a total of $593.60, including Connecticut tax of 6%!
This is NOT going to happen! That is almost half the cost of a new mains'l! Who would pay that amount? It's ridiculous!
Unfortunately, I broke a bone in my foot and have a walking cast on it, so putting up the 3/4" electrical conduit frame and covering her with the standard (good for one (1) year) blue tarp is going to be a little difficult. But the NE fleet Captain has volunteered his help, and I think I will take him up on it!
To answer your question, 3/4" conduit is good. It is easy to store, goes up quick(double tye wrap EACH intersection), is strong for all except the blizard of '98, is easy to make(takes a tubing bender, about 20 bucks at HomeDepot)and of course a "blue tarp". And, once ya bend up the frame, it is yours for a long time!
I'll not pay such a ridiculous price to get her shrink wrapped!
Dave Stump, Hanalei
Just spoke my shipyard manager and he said that to shrink wrap Hanalei, CD-30C, would cost $17 dollars per foot! PLUS $30 for a door AND $20 for two vents!!!! They supply the frame - Oh! GOOD ! ! That all works out to a total of $593.60, including Connecticut tax of 6%!
This is NOT going to happen! That is almost half the cost of a new mains'l! Who would pay that amount? It's ridiculous!
Unfortunately, I broke a bone in my foot and have a walking cast on it, so putting up the 3/4" electrical conduit frame and covering her with the standard (good for one (1) year) blue tarp is going to be a little difficult. But the NE fleet Captain has volunteered his help, and I think I will take him up on it!
To answer your question, 3/4" conduit is good. It is easy to store, goes up quick(double tye wrap EACH intersection), is strong for all except the blizard of '98, is easy to make(takes a tubing bender, about 20 bucks at HomeDepot)and of course a "blue tarp". And, once ya bend up the frame, it is yours for a long time!
I'll not pay such a ridiculous price to get her shrink wrapped!
Dave Stump, Hanalei
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Larry DeMers
Re: Frames for boat covers
We remove the mast each year, so covering the boat is a little easier to do, especially with the schedule 40 PVC PIPE method outlined below. I would skip the shrink wrap method..as Dave says..far too expensive, and prone to several pitfalls that could be even more expensive. One problem with them is the lack of air flow, even with their two small ventilators installed. Many people get mildew growth at a horrible rate during this period, as the cover keeps the environment as healthy for mildew as possible..little air circulation, a warm envelope around the boat so suns heat will stay trapped longer, raising the internal temps during the day, contributing to mildew even more. Another problem that a friend on a Catalina 34 had last year was the stanchions getting pulled inwards, causing the caulking to flex and break, allowing leakage into the boat..again making mildew a problem to contend with along wiht replacing 5 stanchion bases that were bent.
What we did was to make a pvc frame, by simply cutting two lengths of pvc shd 40 pipe, and tying them together at one end, using some cheap poly line about a foot long. At the end of the pipes, I glued on a 90 deg. elbow joint, so that the pipe would lay against and over the top lifeline, hooking it with this 90 deg. elbow, and giving the heavy canvas cover a smooth rounded corner to go over (eliminating the chafing that the stanchion tops sometimes give).
In practice, we put one of these pipe assemblies every 3 ft. along the boat, with the rope section acting as a hinge point, by placing it over the mast (which is laying in crutches, 6 ft. off the deck). WHen the tarp is pulled over the mast, these sections of PVC support it very well, and in concert with the masts height above deck and the angle to the lifelines it forms, this prevents any accumulation of snow or ice on the tarp. Pulling the tarp nice and tight is fine now with the rounded edge of the pvc pipe elbows forming a good wide turning radius. So far, we have survived heavy winds in the 50+kts category, and lots of rain, but no snow that has stuck for long. When winter really kicks in..if it does, we will see how well this idea worked out. Total cost for support system, was about $40, including rope and pvc adhesive. Note, there is a difference in the type of pvc you buy. I got a mixed bag, both identically marked, but one version has remarkably higher strength and stiffness to it's walls than the other. Both are marked schedule 40, although I suspect it to be mismarked. The 'good' schedule 40 material had a wall thickness of around ~.1 in.
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior
demers@sgi.com
What we did was to make a pvc frame, by simply cutting two lengths of pvc shd 40 pipe, and tying them together at one end, using some cheap poly line about a foot long. At the end of the pipes, I glued on a 90 deg. elbow joint, so that the pipe would lay against and over the top lifeline, hooking it with this 90 deg. elbow, and giving the heavy canvas cover a smooth rounded corner to go over (eliminating the chafing that the stanchion tops sometimes give).
In practice, we put one of these pipe assemblies every 3 ft. along the boat, with the rope section acting as a hinge point, by placing it over the mast (which is laying in crutches, 6 ft. off the deck). WHen the tarp is pulled over the mast, these sections of PVC support it very well, and in concert with the masts height above deck and the angle to the lifelines it forms, this prevents any accumulation of snow or ice on the tarp. Pulling the tarp nice and tight is fine now with the rounded edge of the pvc pipe elbows forming a good wide turning radius. So far, we have survived heavy winds in the 50+kts category, and lots of rain, but no snow that has stuck for long. When winter really kicks in..if it does, we will see how well this idea worked out. Total cost for support system, was about $40, including rope and pvc adhesive. Note, there is a difference in the type of pvc you buy. I got a mixed bag, both identically marked, but one version has remarkably higher strength and stiffness to it's walls than the other. Both are marked schedule 40, although I suspect it to be mismarked. The 'good' schedule 40 material had a wall thickness of around ~.1 in.
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior
John Reizian wrote: It's time for that annual quandary - do I shrink wrap her (my CD25)? tarp and wooden frame? tarp and electrical conduit? tarp and pvc piping? Tried the pvc last year but, apparently, between the harmonic set up by the wind and flapping tarp, plus near to sub-zero temps, the frame (2" pvc pipe) shattered (and I mean shattered!) Has anyone designed/constructed a foolproof, easy to set up and strike, frame over which to lay your tarp? If so, your kind advices (pictures, sketches, words, laughter, tears) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy Holidays. John, s/v "Star"
demers@sgi.com
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Bill Goldsmith
Re: Frames for boat covers
For covering with mast down, on crutches, with stanchions up, I like Larry's method. Last winter, however, I put my mast on crutches, but removed all the lifelines and stanchions. I have no stanchion gates, so it is very easy--six set screws, four pelican hooks and four clevis pins. The tarp draped very nicely and did not have to deal with the issue of stanchion chafe.
This year I took the mast down again to finish some unfinished work (then plan to leave it up for a few years). This year I will store it indoors to allow the work to continue over the bitter cold winter (if it ever comes). I removed the lifeline stanchions again--it's so much easier than covering with them installed! To frame out the cover I built two crutches, one U-bolted to the stern rail and one to the bow pulpit. I bought two 16 foot 2x4s and marshalled some scrap wood from my scrap pile. I laid one 2x4 in the stern crutch and on a short 4x4 cut to sit in the mast step. I laid the other 2x4 in the bow crutch and also on the 4x4 at the mast step. Then I cut four diagonal braces, one set of two by the mast step and the other in the cockpit. It is VERY sturdy and I expect it to hold up well. And it was cheap--only the cost of two 16 foot 2x4s and some U bolts.
I am reusing a silver heavy duty tarp that I bought from Northern last year and only had a couple of holes to patch.
When I left the mast up in prior years, the following method worked well, and it's very easy: Make a set of diagonal braces to support the boom and disconnect topping lift. Lash a 2x4 to the bow pulpit and to the mast at the same height as the gooseneck. Use two tarps, one fore and one aft of the mast. If you tie them to overlap you can get a very decent seal around the mast that will keep snow out. I try to leave the front and back of the tarps open to allow wind to blow through--all you're trying to accomplish here is to shed snow and prevent piling up of snow and ice--letting the wind blow through will keep things ventilated and dry down below.
All the best
Bill Goldsmith
CD27#173
Second Chance
goldy@bestweb.net
This year I took the mast down again to finish some unfinished work (then plan to leave it up for a few years). This year I will store it indoors to allow the work to continue over the bitter cold winter (if it ever comes). I removed the lifeline stanchions again--it's so much easier than covering with them installed! To frame out the cover I built two crutches, one U-bolted to the stern rail and one to the bow pulpit. I bought two 16 foot 2x4s and marshalled some scrap wood from my scrap pile. I laid one 2x4 in the stern crutch and on a short 4x4 cut to sit in the mast step. I laid the other 2x4 in the bow crutch and also on the 4x4 at the mast step. Then I cut four diagonal braces, one set of two by the mast step and the other in the cockpit. It is VERY sturdy and I expect it to hold up well. And it was cheap--only the cost of two 16 foot 2x4s and some U bolts.
I am reusing a silver heavy duty tarp that I bought from Northern last year and only had a couple of holes to patch.
When I left the mast up in prior years, the following method worked well, and it's very easy: Make a set of diagonal braces to support the boom and disconnect topping lift. Lash a 2x4 to the bow pulpit and to the mast at the same height as the gooseneck. Use two tarps, one fore and one aft of the mast. If you tie them to overlap you can get a very decent seal around the mast that will keep snow out. I try to leave the front and back of the tarps open to allow wind to blow through--all you're trying to accomplish here is to shed snow and prevent piling up of snow and ice--letting the wind blow through will keep things ventilated and dry down below.
All the best
Bill Goldsmith
CD27#173
Second Chance
John Reizian wrote: It's time for that annual quandary - do I shrink wrap her (my CD25)? tarp and wooden frame? tarp and electrical conduit? tarp and pvc piping? Tried the pvc last year but, apparently, between the harmonic set up by the wind and flapping tarp, plus near to sub-zero temps, the frame (2" pvc pipe) shattered (and I mean shattered!) Has anyone designed/constructed a foolproof, easy to set up and strike, frame over which to lay your tarp? If so, your kind advices (pictures, sketches, words, laughter, tears) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy Holidays. John, s/v "Star"
goldy@bestweb.net
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Michael Heintz
MMMM broken foot....cast?
Captain Stump,
Sorry to hear about your foot !!!!!!
Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg? That cast might well sink you, if your were to go over. Where as the wooden leg might act as your private floatation device
Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
Still in water practicing every day !
Mzenith@aol.com
Sorry to hear about your foot !!!!!!
Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg? That cast might well sink you, if your were to go over. Where as the wooden leg might act as your private floatation device
Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
Still in water practicing every day !
Mzenith@aol.com
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Larry DeMers
Re: MMMM broken foot....a reflection on past times
Dave,
"....Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg?"
This brings to mind a sailing yarn that occured while I was in contact with two of sailings better known writters..Lyn and Larry Pardey & Tristan Jones.
The time was back in the mid 80's, just after the Pardeys had launched Taleisin in Newport Beach Harbor. Tristan had a bout of bad luck and lost the lower half of one leg..bad circulation I believe he said. Larry Pardey had recently completed laying the keel of Taleisin and was completing the interior when they learned of Tristans troubles. Lyn and Larry had a brite idea, and made two peg legs for Tristan..one equal in length to his other leg for use while aboard and at anchor, and one considerably shorter, for use while onboard and heeled. That act caught my imagination and I understood the message being passed.
What was such a wonder to me back then was the way the Pardeys used part of the wood for their boat..not some surplus railroad tie or even a hunk of cypress that was laying around, to make this leg for Tristan, who was either just leaving Romania, or about to go into it, as the first westerner to sail into Romania in several lifetimes. (recollection is getting foggy now..18 years later).
Anyway, your note brought this totally off the topic memory up..lack of sailing for 5 weeks does this to you up here..it's called SDD, or Sailing Depravation Disorder. Generally, sufferers experience considerable anxiety over and disassociation with their boats, now on the hard.
The best part of the story is that T-Day is here and gone, Christmas is next in line, then it is a short 2 1/2 months until we can get north again for boat work. (short?!)
heh..carry on
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior
demers@sgi.com
"....Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg?"
This brings to mind a sailing yarn that occured while I was in contact with two of sailings better known writters..Lyn and Larry Pardey & Tristan Jones.
The time was back in the mid 80's, just after the Pardeys had launched Taleisin in Newport Beach Harbor. Tristan had a bout of bad luck and lost the lower half of one leg..bad circulation I believe he said. Larry Pardey had recently completed laying the keel of Taleisin and was completing the interior when they learned of Tristans troubles. Lyn and Larry had a brite idea, and made two peg legs for Tristan..one equal in length to his other leg for use while aboard and at anchor, and one considerably shorter, for use while onboard and heeled. That act caught my imagination and I understood the message being passed.
What was such a wonder to me back then was the way the Pardeys used part of the wood for their boat..not some surplus railroad tie or even a hunk of cypress that was laying around, to make this leg for Tristan, who was either just leaving Romania, or about to go into it, as the first westerner to sail into Romania in several lifetimes. (recollection is getting foggy now..18 years later).
Anyway, your note brought this totally off the topic memory up..lack of sailing for 5 weeks does this to you up here..it's called SDD, or Sailing Depravation Disorder. Generally, sufferers experience considerable anxiety over and disassociation with their boats, now on the hard.
The best part of the story is that T-Day is here and gone, Christmas is next in line, then it is a short 2 1/2 months until we can get north again for boat work. (short?!)
heh..carry on
Cheers,
Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30 Lake Superior
Michael Heintz wrote: Captain Stump,
Sorry to hear about your foot !!!!!!
That cast might well sink you, if your were to go over. Where as the wooden leg might act as your private floatation device
Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
Still in water practicing every day !
demers@sgi.com
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Leo MacDonald
Re: MMMM broken foot....cast? - PERFECT
Capt. Michael,Michael Heintz wrote: Captain Stump,
Sorry to hear about your foot !!!!!!
Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg? That cast might well sink you, if your were to go over. Where as the wooden leg might act as your private floatation device
Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
Still in water practicing every day !
Great response - LOL funny. You guys keep me in stitches
Fair Winds, Leo
macdore@aol.com
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Pirate Captain, Hanalei
Re: Peg leg...........
Captain Heintz,
If it weren't so serious, I might say that I will soon take on the appearance of my great, great, great Uncle Long John ! ! ! ! Now, that will bring the fear into ya'! Not just a hook and an eye patch, but a sword and peg leg to boot(pun intended)!
Being diabetic has it's drawbacks. One of them is that you lose feeling in your feet, peripheral neuropathy it is called. I walked around with this for two to three weeks and couldn't feel a thing. Only clew that something was wrong was a clicking noise from that foot each time I took a step. Not fun, but it is on the mend and now I know all about it, so can prevent problems in the future.
Thanks for your good wishes.....
Dave Stump
If it weren't so serious, I might say that I will soon take on the appearance of my great, great, great Uncle Long John ! ! ! ! Now, that will bring the fear into ya'! Not just a hook and an eye patch, but a sword and peg leg to boot(pun intended)!
Being diabetic has it's drawbacks. One of them is that you lose feeling in your feet, peripheral neuropathy it is called. I walked around with this for two to three weeks and couldn't feel a thing. Only clew that something was wrong was a clicking noise from that foot each time I took a step. Not fun, but it is on the mend and now I know all about it, so can prevent problems in the future.
Thanks for your good wishes.....
Dave Stump
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Hanalei
Re: Please check E-mail...
Captain,
Please check your E-mail, I sent you something this morning, and don't know if you will see it until Friday?
Dave S.
Please check your E-mail, I sent you something this morning, and don't know if you will see it until Friday?
Dave S.
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CHARLIE PALUMBO
Re: Frames for boat covers
John, despite the well intentioned responses, shrinkwrap application is an excellent system. Comments about mildew only happen if the cover is not properly vented, which is very simple to do. The system does an excellent job in preserving your boat from all kind of weather. With a properly installed cover, you are able to enter your boat anytime during the winter and do some interior work.Shrinkwrap does not rip, Unlike the blue tarps, which I consider highly substandard. I am amazed how some people treasure their vessels in the summer and "CHEAP OUT" in the off season...............big mistake.John Reizian wrote: It's time for that annual quandary - do I shrink wrap her (my CD25)? tarp and wooden frame? tarp and electrical conduit? tarp and pvc piping? Tried the pvc last year but, apparently, between the harmonic set up by the wind and flapping tarp, plus near to sub-zero temps, the frame (2" pvc pipe) shattered (and I mean shattered!) Has anyone designed/constructed a foolproof, easy to set up and strike, frame over which to lay your tarp? If so, your kind advices (pictures, sketches, words, laughter, tears) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy Holidays. John, s/v "Star"
There is only one reason that many people do not shrinkwrap their boats.......... plain ans simple,they do not want to spend the money....a poor excuse if you have a nice vessel. If you want to know how to do it, let me know.
JCP1347J@aol.com
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Catherine Monaghan
Re: MMMM broken foot....cast?
"...maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg..."
Gee, then Dave would truly be Captain Stump!
Sorry, Dave, I couldn't resist:-))
Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Gee, then Dave would truly be Captain Stump!
Sorry, Dave, I couldn't resist:-))
Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Michael Heintz wrote: Captain Stump
Sorry to hear about your foot !!!!!!
Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg? That cast might well sink you, if your were to go over. Where as the wooden leg might act as your private floatation device
Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
Still in water practicing every day !
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
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Catherine Monaghan
Re: Frames for boat covers
Dave,
If you're going to buy a tarp, get a silver tarp rather than a blue one. The silver tarp will last for several seasons.
The grades of poly tarp are:
Blue (Good, if you can call it that but we have to start somewhere)
Green (Better)
Silver (Best)
The silver will cost you more but it's worth it since it will last several seasons.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
If you're going to buy a tarp, get a silver tarp rather than a blue one. The silver tarp will last for several seasons.
The grades of poly tarp are:
Blue (Good, if you can call it that but we have to start somewhere)
Green (Better)
Silver (Best)
The silver will cost you more but it's worth it since it will last several seasons.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
D. Stump,Hanalei wrote: Captainn Reizian,
Just spoke my shipyard manager and he said that to shrink wrap Hanalei, CD-30C, would cost $17 dollars per foot! PLUS $30 for a door AND $20 for two vents!!!! They supply the frame - Oh! GOOD ! ! That all works out to a total of $593.60, including Connecticut tax of 6%!
This is NOT going to happen! That is almost half the cost of a new mains'l! Who would pay that amount? It's ridiculous!
Unfortunately, I broke a bone in my foot and have a walking cast on it, so putting up the 3/4" electrical conduit frame and covering her with the standard (good for one (1) year) blue tarp is going to be a little difficult. But the NE fleet Captain has volunteered his help, and I think I will take him up on it!
To answer your question, 3/4" conduit is good. It is easy to store, goes up quick(double tye wrap EACH intersection), is strong for all except the blizard of '98, is easy to make(takes a tubing bender, about 20 bucks at HomeDepot)and of course a "blue tarp". And, once ya bend up the frame, it is yours for a long time!
I'll not pay such a ridiculous price to get her shrink wrapped!
Dave Stump, Hanalei
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
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Dennis Truett
Re: Frames for boat covers
One thing that I started using for the top horizontal rail (from the bow to the stern)Are the metal sections that are used for the top rail of chain link fences. They are made male and female on the ends. They are not too heavy and they are strong.
Hope thias helps
Dennis Truett
Hope thias helps
Dennis Truett
John Reizian wrote: It's time for that annual quandary - do I shrink wrap her (my CD25)? tarp and wooden frame? tarp and electrical conduit? tarp and pvc piping? Tried the pvc last year but, apparently, between the harmonic set up by the wind and flapping tarp, plus near to sub-zero temps, the frame (2" pvc pipe) shattered (and I mean shattered!) Has anyone designed/constructed a foolproof, easy to set up and strike, frame over which to lay your tarp? If so, your kind advices (pictures, sketches, words, laughter, tears) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy Holidays. John, s/v "Star"
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: Now, THAT really hurt............
Captain Monaghan,
From such an esteemed Captain, I am SHOCKED! I may have a few short comings, but the leg is NOT one of them! Now, patience with the crew on watch may be one of them! Ah, the heck with it, I can see where THIS is going and I will not be able to redeem myself, even with extra tides on watch! I remain Madam,.......... your most HUMBLE and for now, slightly disabled,....... Servant...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
From such an esteemed Captain, I am SHOCKED! I may have a few short comings, but the leg is NOT one of them! Now, patience with the crew on watch may be one of them! Ah, the heck with it, I can see where THIS is going and I will not be able to redeem myself, even with extra tides on watch! I remain Madam,.......... your most HUMBLE and for now, slightly disabled,....... Servant...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
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Bill
Re: MMMM broken foot....cast?
Touche Cathy (LOL)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From one of his earlier post the esteemed Cpt Stump appeared to be laying ground work for an excuse in next years race regarding his "luck" in have chosen the correct course to the Isle of Block!!!!!!
FW
Bill
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com
From one of his earlier post the esteemed Cpt Stump appeared to be laying ground work for an excuse in next years race regarding his "luck" in have chosen the correct course to the Isle of Block!!!!!!
FW
Bill
Catherine Monaghan wrote: "...maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg..."
Gee, then Dave would truly be Captain Stump!
Sorry, Dave, I couldn't resist:-))
Cathy
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Michael Heintz wrote: Captain Stump
Sorry to hear about your foot !!!!!!
Hope it heals by race time, I can just hear the Piriate captain going, clump, clump, clump, around the deck.....maybe we should just "have it off" at the knee, then install the age old wooden leg? That cast might well sink you, if your were to go over. Where as the wooden leg might act as your private floatation device
Michael Heintz
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop CD 30 MK II
Still in water practicing every day !
cd25d@rhapsodysails.com