CD-33 PHRF and Captain MacDonald...
Moderator: Jim Walsh
CD-33 PHRF and Captain MacDonald...
To all Captains Commandin',
It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
Re: CD-33 PHRF and Captain MacDonald...
Careful Leo, this formula gives a pretty close PHRF rating.
A CD30 cutter rates 213 the CD33 rates 176.
R' = 610-8.36*(SA/Disp^.333)+0.0000511*(SA^2)-55*(P/(J+E)) -30.8*(LWL^.5)-602*(DR^2/SA)
where SA= .5*(I*J)+.5*(P*E)
dennis.driscoll@roche.com
A CD30 cutter rates 213 the CD33 rates 176.
R' = 610-8.36*(SA/Disp^.333)+0.0000511*(SA^2)-55*(P/(J+E)) -30.8*(LWL^.5)-602*(DR^2/SA)
where SA= .5*(I*J)+.5*(P*E)
dennis.driscoll@roche.com
Re: CD-33 PHRF and Captain MacDonald...
CD 33 PHRF = 186D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: To all Captains Commandin',
It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
redzeplin@yahoo.com
Beware # 1 AND let's get these ratings RIGHT
Beware #1 not only is said bag kevlar..... so are the new sails for Macht Nichts...... There is a rumor.... that 3 MK II's will race next year, we have had our first captains meeting, and agree we will come in First, Second, & Third.
The racing sloops will rule !!!!!
Now... there seems to be some discrepancies in the PHRF ratings. I suggest that we get this nailed down well before the race begins, as we do not want to repeat what happened at last years Captains meeting prior to race, and that was..... the bum rating for Macht Nichts, the only MK II racing.
It seems there is already a difference for Master Leo and his sleek 33. I imagine we might see him out in Fishers Sound this winter, trying to harness those extra 3 feet.
Your HUMBLE servant,
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop
Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II 004
#2 Spinnaker fleet
Mzenith @ aol.com
The racing sloops will rule !!!!!
Now... there seems to be some discrepancies in the PHRF ratings. I suggest that we get this nailed down well before the race begins, as we do not want to repeat what happened at last years Captains meeting prior to race, and that was..... the bum rating for Macht Nichts, the only MK II racing.

Your HUMBLE servant,
Captain Commanding
Racing Sloop
Macht Nichts CD 30 MK II 004
#2 Spinnaker fleet
Mzenith @ aol.com
Re: Uh, maybe Hanalei will go to Bermuda!!!!
Captain Heintz,
I knew my post would stir up something. Kevlar sails! Three (3) Mark IIs! Ah, now things are really going to be tough at sea.
So, what is the PHRF of a Mark II? Or, should the question be, "What would you LIKE it to be????? Two (2), five (5), or zero (0)! Whatever it takes, right?
Will all three of you be armed with those pesky water balloons as you were last year?? Yours......
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
I knew my post would stir up something. Kevlar sails! Three (3) Mark IIs! Ah, now things are really going to be tough at sea.
So, what is the PHRF of a Mark II? Or, should the question be, "What would you LIKE it to be????? Two (2), five (5), or zero (0)! Whatever it takes, right?
Will all three of you be armed with those pesky water balloons as you were last year?? Yours......
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei
Re: CD-33 PHRF = 186 ??
Captain Stump et el.,
In my search I did find a PHRF of 186 for the CD33 sloop. But I will defer to Capt. John Martin of the Cutter 'Carina’ (car-I-naa ?), CD31C, who knows a whole LOT more about this stuff than I. (Dennis - what are you doing to me here??)
The sloop 'Evening Light' currently has Dacron sails, as I understand, and I do not plan any changes. Any comment Mike?
And " . . beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year!" may be the order of the day for the CD33 participants. There is, luring in the shadows, a very fast CD33 planning on entering the "CD Race 2002"!!! Re; "Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorious again next year!" Now I ask "The Board" who is always tipping 'a glass of wine to you sir'??
The REAL sleeper on all this is The Sloop 'Carina' (car-ee-naa ?), CD27 and the York crew. But, I thing we have worked around that one because Sam will be in Sweden during our race
)
Thanks Dave for the lively & stimulating conversation
Fair Winds,
Leo
PS: Lets here your collective thoughts on a 'CD Race Cup'.
macdore@aol.com
In my search I did find a PHRF of 186 for the CD33 sloop. But I will defer to Capt. John Martin of the Cutter 'Carina’ (car-I-naa ?), CD31C, who knows a whole LOT more about this stuff than I. (Dennis - what are you doing to me here??)
The sloop 'Evening Light' currently has Dacron sails, as I understand, and I do not plan any changes. Any comment Mike?
And " . . beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year!" may be the order of the day for the CD33 participants. There is, luring in the shadows, a very fast CD33 planning on entering the "CD Race 2002"!!! Re; "Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorious again next year!" Now I ask "The Board" who is always tipping 'a glass of wine to you sir'??
The REAL sleeper on all this is The Sloop 'Carina' (car-ee-naa ?), CD27 and the York crew. But, I thing we have worked around that one because Sam will be in Sweden during our race

Thanks Dave for the lively & stimulating conversation

Fair Winds,
Leo
PS: Lets here your collective thoughts on a 'CD Race Cup'.
macdore@aol.com
Re: CD-33 PHRF 186
Dave,
The CD33 is one of the Cape Dories that has an official PHRF. You're very likely to see one with numbers on its sails. If you do, you'll know that the boat is probably carrying a certificate. Anyway, the PHRF rating for the CD33 is 186.
You'll find the PRHF ratings for Cape Dorys on this very website at:
<a href="http://www.toolworks.com/capedory/phrf. ... hrf.htm</a>
You can also get to it by clicking on "About Cape Dorys" in the navigation bar at the top of each web page (except for message board posts). Then scroll down and click on "PHRF Handicaps for Cape Dory Boats".
By the way, they only built 11 CD32s, none were ever officially raced, so there's no official rating.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
"Cape: To all Captains Commandin',
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
The CD33 is one of the Cape Dories that has an official PHRF. You're very likely to see one with numbers on its sails. If you do, you'll know that the boat is probably carrying a certificate. Anyway, the PHRF rating for the CD33 is 186.
You'll find the PRHF ratings for Cape Dorys on this very website at:
<a href="http://www.toolworks.com/capedory/phrf. ... hrf.htm</a>
You can also get to it by clicking on "About Cape Dorys" in the navigation bar at the top of each web page (except for message board posts). Then scroll down and click on "PHRF Handicaps for Cape Dory Boats".
By the way, they only built 11 CD32s, none were ever officially raced, so there's no official rating.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
"Cape: To all Captains Commandin',
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Re: New England Base Handicaps
<a href="http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm">http:/ ... seh.htm</a>
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Catherine Monaghan wrote: Dave,
The CD33 is one of the Cape Dories that has an official PHRF. You're very likely to see one with numbers on its sails. If you do, you'll know that the boat is probably carrying a certificate. Anyway, the PHRF rating for the CD33 is 186.
You'll find the PRHF ratings for Cape Dorys on this very website at:
<a href="http://www.toolworks.com/capedory/phrf. ... hrf.htm</a>
You can also get to it by clicking on "About Cape Dorys" in the navigation bar at the top of each web page (except for message board posts). Then scroll down and click on "PHRF Handicaps for Cape Dory Boats".
By the way, they only built 11 CD32s, none were ever officially raced, so there's no official rating.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
"Cape: To all Captains Commandin',
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Re: CD-33 PHRF = 186 ??
Leo,
First, congratulations on your new vessel. When I saw you last at the CDSOA meeting on November 10th, you were just going to take a look at her. I'm thrilled it all worked out to your satisfaction. I fear you will be a sailing force to be reckoned with in next year's race. New sails or old, I think you have Capt Dave thinkin' about you already and that says alot!! Your remark about Captain York and his CD27 is right on. As the lucky owner of just such a vessel, I can tell you that a CD27 can nip along smartly when given the chance. I demonstrated that to my very great surprise and pleasure last summer when my very competent crew and brother-in-law (or brother-in-law and crew if you like)and I kept ahead of both a Hunter 34 and a Hylas 45 for 1.5 hours in a 12 knot breeze going to windward. Those guys looked plenty frustrated when they finally got close enough for us to see their faces. In any event, I suspect all participating will do the the Cape Dory name proud in next year's race.
Warren Kaplan
S/V Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166
Setsail728@aol.com
First, congratulations on your new vessel. When I saw you last at the CDSOA meeting on November 10th, you were just going to take a look at her. I'm thrilled it all worked out to your satisfaction. I fear you will be a sailing force to be reckoned with in next year's race. New sails or old, I think you have Capt Dave thinkin' about you already and that says alot!! Your remark about Captain York and his CD27 is right on. As the lucky owner of just such a vessel, I can tell you that a CD27 can nip along smartly when given the chance. I demonstrated that to my very great surprise and pleasure last summer when my very competent crew and brother-in-law (or brother-in-law and crew if you like)and I kept ahead of both a Hunter 34 and a Hylas 45 for 1.5 hours in a 12 knot breeze going to windward. Those guys looked plenty frustrated when they finally got close enough for us to see their faces. In any event, I suspect all participating will do the the Cape Dory name proud in next year's race.
Warren Kaplan
S/V Sine Qua Non
CD27 #166
Setsail728@aol.com
Re: CD-33 PHRF 186
Catherine,
See the PHRF- Mid Atlantic web site and get an application for an "Official" Rating for Realization:
http://www.phrfma.org/
See you next year on the NJORC Circuit???
Dennis
dennis.driscoll@roche.com
See the PHRF- Mid Atlantic web site and get an application for an "Official" Rating for Realization:
http://www.phrfma.org/
See you next year on the NJORC Circuit???
Dennis
dennis.driscoll@roche.com
Lake Ontario Base Handicaps
<a href="http://www.phrf-lo.org/spframe.htm">htt ... ame.htm</a>
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Catherine Monaghan wrote: Dave,
The CD33 is one of the Cape Dories that has an official PHRF. You're very likely to see one with numbers on its sails. If you do, you'll know that the boat is probably carrying a certificate. Anyway, the PHRF rating for the CD33 is 186.
You'll find the PRHF ratings for Cape Dorys on this very website at:
<a href="http://www.toolworks.com/capedory/phrf. ... hrf.htm</a>
You can also get to it by clicking on "About Cape Dorys" in the navigation bar at the top of each web page (except for message board posts). Then scroll down and click on "PHRF Handicaps for Cape Dory Boats".
By the way, they only built 11 CD32s, none were ever officially raced, so there's no official rating.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
"Cape: To all Captains Commandin',
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Long Island Sound Base Handicaps
<a href="http://www.yralis.org/ratings/base_rati ... gs.html</a>
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Catherine Monaghan wrote: Dave,
The CD33 is one of the Cape Dories that has an official PHRF. You're very likely to see one with numbers on its sails. If you do, you'll know that the boat is probably carrying a certificate. Anyway, the PHRF rating for the CD33 is 186.
You'll find the PRHF ratings for Cape Dorys on this very website at:
<a href="http://www.toolworks.com/capedory/phrf. ... hrf.htm</a>
You can also get to it by clicking on "About Cape Dorys" in the navigation bar at the top of each web page (except for message board posts). Then scroll down and click on "PHRF Handicaps for Cape Dory Boats".
By the way, they only built 11 CD32s, none were ever officially raced, so there's no official rating.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
"Cape: To all Captains Commandin',
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
PHRF ratings for other regions...
<a href="http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/links.htm ... nks.htm</a>
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Catherine Monaghan wrote: Dave,
The CD33 is one of the Cape Dories that has an official PHRF. You're very likely to see one with numbers on its sails. If you do, you'll know that the boat is probably carrying a certificate. Anyway, the PHRF rating for the CD33 is 186.
You'll find the PRHF ratings for Cape Dorys on this very website at:
<a href="http://www.toolworks.com/capedory/phrf. ... hrf.htm</a>
You can also get to it by clicking on "About Cape Dorys" in the navigation bar at the top of each web page (except for message board posts). Then scroll down and click on "PHRF Handicaps for Cape Dory Boats".
By the way, they only built 11 CD32s, none were ever officially raced, so there's no official rating.
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
CCDOA Assistant Webmaster
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
"Cape: To all Captains Commandin',
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: It has come to this esteemed Captains' attention that one Captain MacDonald of the CD-30K Heather Anne(recently sold out of the fleet, or sent to the breakers), has decided to lengthen his water line in order to gain an advantage in the at sea contest to be held between Hanalei and his vessel this year next. Now, it is rumored that some Captains have already been looking into purchasing new Kevlar, or Tape Drive, loose footed, or bolt rope footed sails or whatever high tech space age STUFF that is used to replace good old Dacron sails in order to beat the stuffin'(a Turkey Day sayin') out of Hanalei next year! Some are even pulling the boat after every training session just to clean the BOTTOM (this might apply to those skippers from Greenwich Cove). This improvement in equipment is understandable, but, some will do ANYTHING to increase their fleet standing! Why, this Captain understands that Captain Heintz has purchased a special kevlar bag that attaches to the bow pulpit in which he can stuff his sails so they don't drag in the water! But, buy a WHOLE new boat to increase ones' chances? Sounds a little extreme to this old sea dog!! Perhaps Captain MacDonald has been to the spirit locker once to often? Or, He is afraid, really AFRAID, that Hanalei will reign victorius again next year!
Oh, and the real question, and this is probably for John Martin, what IS the PHRF for a Cape Dory 33? This may take a LOT of research to ascertain, as I don't believe a CD-33 was EVER rated, a similiar situation to the CD-32! (C. Monaghan beware!)
At any rate, a glass of wine with you Captain MacDonald and a hand salute to you for your new vessel. May you find fair winds and following seas wherever you venture in her. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...........
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
Re:Did I stir up the hornets...???
To all Captains Commandin',
Guess I really stirred 'em up with this postin'!!!!!!!!
OK, so now the REAL question is: "Just how many MINUTES per mile does Captain MacDonald give to Hanalei?" Note, I asked MINUTES, not SECONDS! In all seriousness(my DQOTD), does a PHRF of 186 mean he gives Hanalei 3 minutes 6 seconds per mile?
Arg Matey, next summer can't come too soon! ! ! ......I remain......your most HUMBLE servant......
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA #1
Guess I really stirred 'em up with this postin'!!!!!!!!
OK, so now the REAL question is: "Just how many MINUTES per mile does Captain MacDonald give to Hanalei?" Note, I asked MINUTES, not SECONDS! In all seriousness(my DQOTD), does a PHRF of 186 mean he gives Hanalei 3 minutes 6 seconds per mile?
Arg Matey, next summer can't come too soon! ! ! ......I remain......your most HUMBLE servant......
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
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