CD25
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CD25
I have found a CD 25 (1980) that appears to be in decent condition (needs cosmetic work only) but have two questions I would really appreciate an answer on. 1. I have read in the msgs posted here about float on/off trailers. Can you really do this with a CD 25 (3850#) or do you just use the trailer to transport and have a lift do it. 2. The cockpit dranes run straight down through the hull and while the boat is sitting the water is at the top of these drains. With some weight on the side, the water water is high enough to just get above the drain top. Question is that it would seem if you were loaded down say, two inches in the water you would have 2 inches in the cockpit. It would also seem that heeled over 20 or 30 degrees would again lower the top of the drain below the water level outside putting water into the cockpit. Is this true? Has anyone found this a problem? There are valves on both drains but it seems strange to close a valve underway designed to get rid of water that may get inside. If anyone has info on this please send it right away as I would like to make my decision to buy in the next couple of days. Thanks Jake
a_jake@msn.com
a_jake@msn.com
Re: CD25
I have sailed my CD25 at about 20 degrees and have only occasional water in the cockpit. However, my boat is not loaded down with provisions. The waterline hits at the bottom of the bootstripe. Good luck with your endeavor.
kevin
kaubuchon@primary.net
kevin
kaubuchon@primary.net
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Jake,
I have only had my CD25 (1979)for one year, but I have not found that heeling was a problem with water coming up through the scuppers. The design does allow some water into the cockpit, but very little volume, which is quickly evacuated anyway (through these scuppers). I did fill the water tank last year which put me slightly below the water line when I had crew with me, again very little water entered cockpit through scuppers. The CD25 has been a great surprise in terms of stability and seakindliness. I would like the get a trailer also, I now sail in Lake Erie and would love to trailer to Chesapeake and North Channel of Georgian Bay. If you buy a well preserved CD I'm sure you'll be happy. Great little boat.
Good Luck,
Tim Sanborn
tsanborn@ameritech.net
I have only had my CD25 (1979)for one year, but I have not found that heeling was a problem with water coming up through the scuppers. The design does allow some water into the cockpit, but very little volume, which is quickly evacuated anyway (through these scuppers). I did fill the water tank last year which put me slightly below the water line when I had crew with me, again very little water entered cockpit through scuppers. The CD25 has been a great surprise in terms of stability and seakindliness. I would like the get a trailer also, I now sail in Lake Erie and would love to trailer to Chesapeake and North Channel of Georgian Bay. If you buy a well preserved CD I'm sure you'll be happy. Great little boat.
Good Luck,
Tim Sanborn
tsanborn@ameritech.net
Re: CD25
I have sailed my CD25 on Lake Erie for 14 years and have not found the cockpit drains to be a problem at all. Sometimes at the dock, when having cocktails in the cockpit with four or more people, some water will be in the cockpit. It is usually less than an inch and I never bothered to shut the drain valves.
By the way, my 1981 CD25 is for sale in Port Clinton, Ohio. See a previous posting done about 1-2 months age for details.
maxg@fuse.net
By the way, my 1981 CD25 is for sale in Port Clinton, Ohio. See a previous posting done about 1-2 months age for details.
maxg@fuse.net
Re: CD25
I have this problem on my CD25 - 1973, hull#12. I just bought it. I think the answer is to fill the water tank below the V berth. I havn't done this yet but I'm guessing that the 10 gallons will even out the water line enought to lift the stearn out of the water.
DeHaemer@compuserve.com
Jake wrote: I have found a CD 25 (1980) that appears to be in decent condition (needs cosmetic work only) but have two questions I would really appreciate an answer on. 1. I have read in the msgs posted here about float on/off trailers. Can you really do this with a CD 25 (3850#) or do you just use the trailer to transport and have a lift do it. 2. The cockpit dranes run straight down through the hull and while the boat is sitting the water is at the top of these drains. With some weight on the side, the water water is high enough to just get above the drain top. Question is that it would seem if you were loaded down say, two inches in the water you would have 2 inches in the cockpit. It would also seem that heeled over 20 or 30 degrees would again lower the top of the drain below the water level outside putting water into the cockpit. Is this true? Has anyone found this a problem? There are valves on both drains but it seems strange to close a valve underway designed to get rid of water that may get inside. If anyone has info on this please send it right away as I would like to make my decision to buy in the next couple of days. Thanks Jake
DeHaemer@compuserve.com
Re: CD25
Jake:
As to the scupper drains, you need to shift balast forward. The water line should be an inch or two below the cockpit floor. Yes I have seen water come up through the scuppers when there are too many passengers in the cockpit, or at extream angles of heel (with the rail awash).
As to the trailer, I have never done it myself, but I know people who have launched a cd25 from the trailer. You don't need a fancy trailer, just a long tounge! The boat draws 3 ft. and you need about 2 ft for the trailer, so you've got to be in 5 or 6 feet of water to float that boat off the trailer. Pulling the boat back out would be more difficult yet (the case I know of didn't do that). I've always considered the boat a bit heavy to trailer sail.
Bruce
Sostenuto cd25 #496
Bett@smtp.munet.edu
As to the scupper drains, you need to shift balast forward. The water line should be an inch or two below the cockpit floor. Yes I have seen water come up through the scuppers when there are too many passengers in the cockpit, or at extream angles of heel (with the rail awash).
As to the trailer, I have never done it myself, but I know people who have launched a cd25 from the trailer. You don't need a fancy trailer, just a long tounge! The boat draws 3 ft. and you need about 2 ft for the trailer, so you've got to be in 5 or 6 feet of water to float that boat off the trailer. Pulling the boat back out would be more difficult yet (the case I know of didn't do that). I've always considered the boat a bit heavy to trailer sail.
Bruce
Sostenuto cd25 #496
Jake wrote: I have found a CD 25 (1980) that appears to be in decent condition (needs cosmetic work only) but have two questions I would really appreciate an answer on. 1. I have read in the msgs posted here about float on/off trailers. Can you really do this with a CD 25 (3850#) or do you just use the trailer to transport and have a lift do it. 2. The cockpit dranes run straight down through the hull and while the boat is sitting the water is at the top of these drains. With some weight on the side, the water water is high enough to just get above the drain top. Question is that it would seem if you were loaded down say, two inches in the water you would have 2 inches in the cockpit. It would also seem that heeled over 20 or 30 degrees would again lower the top of the drain below the water level outside putting water into the cockpit. Is this true? Has anyone found this a problem? There are valves on both drains but it seems strange to close a valve underway designed to get rid of water that may get inside. If anyone has info on this please send it right away as I would like to make my decision to buy in the next couple of days. Thanks Jake
Bett@smtp.munet.edu
Re: CD25
I bought a CD26 last fall and the surveyor told me about a couple he knew that trailered theirs. They just hooked the trailer to the car with 50' of chain and pushed it into the water until the boat floated off. Seems a bit risky to me, but evidently they did it all the time.Bruce Bett wrote: As to the trailer, I have never done it myself, but I know people who have launched a cd25 from the trailer. You don't need a fancy trailer, just a long tounge! The boat draws 3 ft. and you need about 2 ft for the trailer, so you've got to be in 5 or 6 feet of water to float that boat off the trailer. Pulling the boat back out would be more difficult yet (the case I know of didn't do that). I've always considered the boat a bit heavy to trailer sail.
RVRMorris@compuserve.com
Re: CD25
I use a 30foot chain to launch my Chrysler22 fixed keel. Don't forget to use duct tape on the chain hooks. I have seen trailers become submarines when the chain unhooked. Otherwise, no problem.kevin aubuchon wrote: I have sailed my CD25 at about 20 degrees and have only occasional water in the cockpit. However, my boat is not loaded down with provisions. The waterline hits at the bottom of the bootstripe. Good luck with your endeavor.
kevin
bbill@mail2.quiknet.com