Ty coaming removal

[john hoft-march]

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.



john.hoft-march@appleton.org

[Joel]

I just refinished mine this past off-season and didn't encounter the bunged holes. All that were holding the coamings on were the screws you mentioned (and they were screws on Pokey) and the three screws that you access from inside the cabin on either side of the companionway.

Enjoy,

Joel
s/y Pokey II
'73 Ty #549

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.

bondy_joel@hotmail.com

[sloojohnl]

sounds like someone tried to reposition the height of the coamings. the bungs may be just a way of filling the holes. coamings are definitely held on by stainles steel sheet metal screws as Joel mentioned. i remove mine about every three years to refinish. much easier done in the garage, in the winter, at your leisure!!

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.

[Paul D]

John,

My bet is those bungs are from old screw holes that someone removed the screws and bunged over the holes after putting a row of bolts below it. Check to see if there are even fastenings in there.
Paul
Typhoon HORNET
MPLS MN



nyeme001@tc.umn.edu

[Ed Armstrong 1979 TyWkndr]

The coamings on my 1979 are screwed in by sheet metal screws as mentioned, but the screw-heads have wood plugs covering them (is this what you mean by bungs?). One of the coamings is pulling away from the deck, and I think I just need to tighten the screw, but I need to remove the plugs first. I was just going to drill out the center of the plug with a small drillbit and pop it out. I guess I should use something like 4200 in the joint when I tighten it up again.

I don't have any bolts.

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.

ed.armstrong@innercite.com

[Hal]

John-

My two cents on bung/plug removal and replacing: The best and safest way to remove old wood plugs is by carefully digging out with a v/small chisel. Many on this board over the years have suggested drilling a small hole in the center of the old bung, putting a screw in the hole, pulling on the screw and simply popping the bung out (wrong). It sounds slick enough but you will find that by doing so, one often splinters wood directly adjacent to the hole. As far as how to "glue" the replacement bung in? Shipwrights will tell you to put a little varnish on the bung before placing it in the hole. That way, when you or a subsequent owner wants to remove that same plug in 10 years, it will be a cleaner and easier task. Hope this helps

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.

ficadoor@aol.com

[Bill Goldsmith]

Hal,

I have heard of a slight modification of the second method you described as potentially damaging surrounding wood. Some have claimed success by drilling a small pilot hole, inserting a drywall screw (no taper like a wood screw) and when the screw touches the head of the underlying screw, slowly tighten further until the bung pops out. This is instead of pulling the bung. Will this also damage the surrounding wood? (I am planning to remove some pieces for winter finishing this year).

Bill Goldsmith
CD27 #173
Second Chance

John-

My two cents on bung/plug removal and replacing: The best and safest way to remove old wood plugs is by carefully digging out with a v/small chisel. Many on this board over the years have suggested drilling a small hole in the center of the old bung, putting a screw in the hole, pulling on the screw and simply popping the bung out (wrong). It sounds slick enough but you will find that by doing so, one often splinters wood directly adjacent to the hole. As far as how to "glue" the replacement bung in? Shipwrights will tell you to put a little varnish on the bung before placing it in the hole. That way, when you or a subsequent owner wants to remove that same plug in 10 years, it will be a cleaner and easier task. Hope this helps

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.

goldy@bestweb.net

[Ed Armstrong]

Yes, this is also the method that I heard, recommended by Jerry Montgomery of Montgomery Boats for removing plugs on the Montgomery 17 (if I'm remembering right). Don't know if this will work on the Ty cockpit coamings.

Ed

Hal,

I have heard of a slight modification of the second method you described as potentially damaging surrounding wood. Some have claimed success by drilling a small pilot hole, inserting a drywall screw (no taper like a wood screw) and when the screw touches the head of the underlying screw, slowly tighten further until the bung pops out. This is instead of pulling the bung. Will this also damage the surrounding wood? (I am planning to remove some pieces for winter finishing this year).

Bill Goldsmith
CD27 #173
Second Chance

John-

My two cents on bung/plug removal and replacing: The best and safest way to remove old wood plugs is by carefully digging out with a v/small chisel. Many on this board over the years have suggested drilling a small hole in the center of the old bung, putting a screw in the hole, pulling on the screw and simply popping the bung out (wrong). It sounds slick enough but you will find that by doing so, one often splinters wood directly adjacent to the hole. As far as how to "glue" the replacement bung in? Shipwrights will tell you to put a little varnish on the bung before placing it in the hole. That way, when you or a subsequent owner wants to remove that same plug in 10 years, it will be a cleaner and easier task. Hope this helps

I'm planning on refinishing the teak on my 1972 Ty (I'm thinking of using Bristol Finish, but that's another subject. In any case, there is lots of stripping, cleaning, & sanding to be done first.) On the coamings, there is a row of large screws which extend through the cockpit backrests and under the side decks. I think they are bolts but haven't looked in a while. Above that row of screw heads is what looks to me like a row of bunged holes. They line up roughly with the edge of the side decks. Can anyone tell me if that's a second set of fasteners and, if so, how do I remove/replace bungs? I'm planning to do all possible finishing off the boat. If I have to replace bungs after re-installing the boards, doesn't that make finishing the boards in my basement (or somewhere else with better ventilation) pointless?

Thanks.

ed.armstrong@innercite.com