Marine Sanitation.....

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D. Stump, Hanalei

Marine Sanitation.....

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To All Captains Commanding...

Recently there have been a few posts on the site concerning holding tanks, vents, heads etc. The recognized expert concerning this stinky subject is Ms. Peggy Hall. You can read about her and learn "Marine Sanitation, Fact versus Folklore" at the following web site:
www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/phall.htm

or

Contact her by E-mail at: peghall@bellsouth.net

If she can't answer your questions, nobody else will be able to.

Dave Stump
Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
Ken Coit

Re: Marine Sanitation.....

Post by Ken Coit »

Right you are. Peggy Hall of Peal Products (since sold to Raritan), not Peggy Peal.

Oh well....
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: To All Captains Commanding...

Recently there have been a few posts on the site concerning holding tanks, vents, heads etc. The recognized expert concerning this stinky subject is Ms. Peggy Hall. You can read about her and learn "Marine Sanitation, Fact versus Folklore" at the following web site:
www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/phall.htm

or

Contact her by E-mail at: peghall@bellsouth.net

If she can't answer your questions, nobody else will be able to.

Dave Stump
Hanalei CD-30C "#1"


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John R.

Re: Marine Sanitation.....

Post by John R. »

Debatable I think Dave. Perhaps a defacto expert. She is not an advocate of PVC piping on board yet it has gaining in popularity for years and is recognized by most surveyors as perfectly appropriate if installed correctly. It certainly totally eliminates any odor permeation as is not the case with any head hose; even premium head hose eventually permeates. Also she does not advocate wood/epoxy tank construction or other forms aside from HDPE. Wood /epoxy, compliments of Gougeon has been done for years and has an excellent service reputation. She also has little good to say about any tank additives aside from her own products. She has some good advice from their years in the sanitation business but ultimately it all comes back to their products or products they marketed. I think CD owners should rely more on word of mouth of experiences and techniques by other CD owners that do not have a commercial interest. Just my thoughts on her perceived expertise.
D. Stump, Hanalei wrote: To All Captains Commanding...

Recently there have been a few posts on the site concerning holding tanks, vents, heads etc. The recognized expert concerning this stinky subject is Ms. Peggy Hall. You can read about her and learn "Marine Sanitation, Fact versus Folklore" at the following web site:
www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/phall.htm

or

Contact her by E-mail at: peghall@bellsouth.net

If she can't answer your questions, nobody else will be able to.

Dave Stump
Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
Mike

Re: Marine Sanitation.....

Post by Mike »

I've often wondered about the use of PVC in a sanitation system. My father was a plumber, and we did a lot of stuff with. (I won't go into details about the furniture we created with it.) Don Casey has written about it briefly in "This Old Boat". But I've not seen any other sources. Does anyone know a good source for discussing a PVC sanitation system?



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John R.

Re: Marine Sanitation.....

Post by John R. »

Mike wrote: I've often wondered about the use of PVC in a sanitation system. My father was a plumber, and we did a lot of stuff with. (I won't go into details about the furniture we created with it.) Don Casey has written about it briefly in "This Old Boat". But I've not seen any other sources. Does anyone know a good source for discussing a PVC sanitation system?
Best source is to just ask around. Experienced boaters, good surveyors, good service people and good yards will have the best practical experienced info. There will be two sides of the coin as far as opinion is concerned. Expect more positive opinion on the PVC then on hose. Here's some food for thought:

PVC advantages:
1) will not permeate !!!
2) cheap !
3) extremely long lifespan with proper head maintenance
4) easy to obtain
5) easy to adapt, layout
6) easy to work with
7) easy to clean exterior surfaces

Sanitation Hose advantages:
1) flexibility in installation

Some folks will claim PVC is too brittle to be used on board a boat. I think that is a ridiculous claim for a head system on a sailboat. I've yet to see a section of schedule 40 fail on a boat. A large powerboat with much vibration may be a different matter but even at that the possible motion and vibration can easily be dealt with in a proper installation. I know of no one that has PVC as part of their head plumbing system that has had any sort of problems with the PVC aspects of the systems.
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