When I moved to San Francisco--Hello, Wind!!--, I rigged my auxillary cutter into pretty much an all the time cutter. Also, when unpacking from the truck ride west, I did the rigging.
When I cranked down on the babystay, it definitely affected the tension on the Profurl equipped headstay. Tension at the backstay remained the same. I can tell the forestay tension changed, because when I am running yankee and staysail, I can see the forestay oscillating. Prior to the regular use of the babystay, I never saw this.
Mainsail shape is OK, considering the sail is beyond worn out.
The Profurl manual states, "Check the tension." Yeah, OK. My tension gauge (the slip over wire and pull variety) no worky in the application.
Suggestions?
TIA, Richard
Oh, is it normal to have to furl completely the yankee prior to tacking. This is somewhat of a PIA. Any suggestions for reducing the friction at the reefing line?
rlstanley@mindspring.com
Headstay tension w/ Profurl
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Nautical Traditions Offic
Re: profurlusa.com....and other stuff...
Captain Stanley,
You might try the website: profurlusa.com they have a way of asking questions. But, from what I read, the ProFurl is independant of the head stay. Did you receive directions with the unit? If the headstay sags to leward I would think it does need adjusting. How to do it, I don't know as my system is Harken. Hope this helps a little, I remain....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
You might try the website: profurlusa.com they have a way of asking questions. But, from what I read, the ProFurl is independant of the head stay. Did you receive directions with the unit? If the headstay sags to leward I would think it does need adjusting. How to do it, I don't know as my system is Harken. Hope this helps a little, I remain....
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1"
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Michael Heintz
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1" ??????????????
s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1" number 1 now is it.....................Nautical Traditions Officer wrote: Captain Dave,
mzenith@aol.com
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Catherine Monaghan
Tuning the rig -- text from CD manual
Richard,
The spars on Cape Dorys (the original spars anyway) are supposed to remain upright. They should not be bent as on some racers, nor should they rake forward or aft. Your backstay may be a bit overtight or the headstay is too lose? Anyway, the following was copied from a CD owners manual. Hope it helps.
"...The purpose of tuning the rig is to adjust the center of effort of the sail plan fore or aft to obtain a slight weather helm in moderate winds, and to keep it straight without "hooks" to port, starboard, fore or aft. Properly trimming the rig is an important process which should be attempted only by qualified personnel; consult your Cape Dory dealer.
The fore and aft alignment of your mast can be checked by comparing it to a vertical structure such as a radio tower, chimney, etc. Before checking the mast alignment in this manner, be certain that the boat is resting on her design water line. If the mast is leaning fore or aft, ease the turnbuckle toward which the mast is leaning and take up a corresponding number of turns on the opposite turnbuckle. (Note: When adjusting turnbuckles, never use excessive force or the turnbuckle may be contorted.) Always prevent the upper threaded turnbuckle stud from turning. Headstays and backstays should never be taken up so tightly that they will not "give" an inch or so if you pull on them with moderate force.
Upper shrouds should also be tightened equally and have about an inch of "give" to them. Forward lower shrouds should have one to two inches of "give", and the aft lowers slightly more.
Under no circumstances take up the rigging to bar tight tension. Both the mast and the boat can be severely damaged by excessive tension.
Fine tuning of the rig can be completed after the boat has been sailed, and may have to be done again after the boat has been out in strong winds. When sailing, it is important that the mast remain straight and as nearly in column as possible at all times. While sailing close hauled, sight up the mast track and note any mast curve. Does the mast appear to be falling off to leeward at the top, or does it hook to windward? Repeat this procedure on the opposite tack.
If the masthead is falling off on both tacks, the forward lower shrouds are too tight and the upper shrouds are too loose. If the masthead hooks to windward, the upper shroud is too tight in relation to the lower on the same side. When sailing to windward, the forward lower shrouds bear a greater load than the after lower shrouds; however, the after lower shrouds on the windward side should never be loose. All shroud tuning should be done from the leeward side. If the rig seems to be equally balanced when you begin, duplicate every half turn from side to side.
Be sure that every locknut is tightened after adjusting turnbuckles. Check to see that all cotter pins or rings are in place and that all sharp edges are taped...."
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
The spars on Cape Dorys (the original spars anyway) are supposed to remain upright. They should not be bent as on some racers, nor should they rake forward or aft. Your backstay may be a bit overtight or the headstay is too lose? Anyway, the following was copied from a CD owners manual. Hope it helps.
"...The purpose of tuning the rig is to adjust the center of effort of the sail plan fore or aft to obtain a slight weather helm in moderate winds, and to keep it straight without "hooks" to port, starboard, fore or aft. Properly trimming the rig is an important process which should be attempted only by qualified personnel; consult your Cape Dory dealer.
The fore and aft alignment of your mast can be checked by comparing it to a vertical structure such as a radio tower, chimney, etc. Before checking the mast alignment in this manner, be certain that the boat is resting on her design water line. If the mast is leaning fore or aft, ease the turnbuckle toward which the mast is leaning and take up a corresponding number of turns on the opposite turnbuckle. (Note: When adjusting turnbuckles, never use excessive force or the turnbuckle may be contorted.) Always prevent the upper threaded turnbuckle stud from turning. Headstays and backstays should never be taken up so tightly that they will not "give" an inch or so if you pull on them with moderate force.
Upper shrouds should also be tightened equally and have about an inch of "give" to them. Forward lower shrouds should have one to two inches of "give", and the aft lowers slightly more.
Under no circumstances take up the rigging to bar tight tension. Both the mast and the boat can be severely damaged by excessive tension.
Fine tuning of the rig can be completed after the boat has been sailed, and may have to be done again after the boat has been out in strong winds. When sailing, it is important that the mast remain straight and as nearly in column as possible at all times. While sailing close hauled, sight up the mast track and note any mast curve. Does the mast appear to be falling off to leeward at the top, or does it hook to windward? Repeat this procedure on the opposite tack.
If the masthead is falling off on both tacks, the forward lower shrouds are too tight and the upper shrouds are too loose. If the masthead hooks to windward, the upper shroud is too tight in relation to the lower on the same side. When sailing to windward, the forward lower shrouds bear a greater load than the after lower shrouds; however, the after lower shrouds on the windward side should never be loose. All shroud tuning should be done from the leeward side. If the rig seems to be equally balanced when you begin, duplicate every half turn from side to side.
Be sure that every locknut is tightened after adjusting turnbuckles. Check to see that all cotter pins or rings are in place and that all sharp edges are taped...."
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
Richard Stanley wrote: When I moved to San Francisco--Hello, Wind!!--, I rigged my auxillary cutter into pretty much an all the time cutter. Also, when unpacking from the truck ride west, I did the rigging.
When I cranked down on the babystay, it definitely affected the tension on the Profurl equipped headstay. Tension at the backstay remained the same. I can tell the forestay tension changed, because when I am running yankee and staysail, I can see the forestay oscillating. Prior to the regular use of the babystay, I never saw this.
Mainsail shape is OK, considering the sail is beyond worn out.
The Profurl manual states, "Check the tension." Yeah, OK. My tension gauge (the slip over wire and pull variety) no worky in the application.
Suggestions?
TIA, Richard
Oh, is it normal to have to furl completely the yankee prior to tacking. This is somewhat of a PIA. Any suggestions for reducing the friction at the reefing line?
catherine_monaghan@merck.com
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Jeff Funston
Re: s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1" ??????????????
He must be referring to the race we heard so much about, and not his hull number! Or it could be thats what he thinks about his own boat.
Jeff Funston CD25 #1 (In my mind every time I see her)
jeff.funston@pinn.net
Jeff Funston CD25 #1 (In my mind every time I see her)
jeff.funston@pinn.net
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D. Stump, Hanalei
Re: s/v Hanalei CD-30C "#1" !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Captain Heintz,
Aye, Matey, that be it until next year when the sailing vessel Hanalei calls the fleet out for a re-match! She proudly flies the CDSOA burgee at the starboard signal halyard, with code signal flag "1" just below! She will be standing on & off Noank next year to meet any Captains challenge! It is expected that all lubbers will use their best efforts to either sink, cripple with a broadside of metal or at least beat Hanalei in another fair race. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA "#1"
By the way, the Fleet Captain agrees with this practice!
Aye, Matey, that be it until next year when the sailing vessel Hanalei calls the fleet out for a re-match! She proudly flies the CDSOA burgee at the starboard signal halyard, with code signal flag "1" just below! She will be standing on & off Noank next year to meet any Captains challenge! It is expected that all lubbers will use their best efforts to either sink, cripple with a broadside of metal or at least beat Hanalei in another fair race. I remain Sir, your most HUMBLE servant...
Dave Stump
Captain Commanding
s/v Hanalei CD-30C
CDSOA "#1"
By the way, the Fleet Captain agrees with this practice!