three cheers for tom cambria
Moderator: Jim Walsh
three cheers for tom cambria
hip hip hooray X 3 - tom's extremely simple method of wiring the start button from the key instead of through the GP works perfectly - see recent posts - i think it makes it much easier to start the engine, less glow plug time needed - i don't think carbonization of the gp switch is the problem, i think it's just the extra current drain when the glow plugs are activated at the same time as the starter - it also means you can steer with one hand, hold the gp switch, then let it go and press the start button - tom: thank you!
len
md.frel@nwh.org
len
md.frel@nwh.org
Re: three cheers for tom cambria
As a new owner of a CD30 with a Unversal M18, I am also curious about this thread. Can someone please explain what problem this change with the wires corrects? Are we sure that this change allows the glow plugs to still work as required? Are we sure that the glow plugs are not always "hot" with this change? I have studied both the drawing from Tom Cambria, as well as the wiring diagram that Mitch Bober referred us to, but I am still unsure that: A. the glow plugs will operate when the GP button is depressed, and B. that glow plugs would not always be "hot" as it looks to me like we have by passed the GP button switch.
Bob O.
bobohler@chesapeake.net
Bob O.
len wrote: hip hip hooray X 3 - tom's extremely simple method of wiring the start button from the key instead of through the GP works perfectly - see recent posts - i think it makes it much easier to start the engine, less glow plug time needed - i don't think carbonization of the gp switch is the problem, i think it's just the extra current drain when the glow plugs are activated at the same time as the starter - it also means you can steer with one hand, hold the gp switch, then let it go and press the start button - tom: thank you!
len
bobohler@chesapeake.net
It is true (IMHO)
The circuit checks out fine on my Universal.
Every best wish with that new boat.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Every best wish with that new boat.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Re: Three cheers for Tom!
All, Checked out the Westerbeke wire diagram, same thing. Works better, lasts longer, a better design then the original. Three cheers for Tom!!!!
Dennis Truett CD26d
Dennis Truett CD26d
M. R. Bober wrote: The circuit checks out fine on my Universal.
Every best wish with that new boat.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
Re: Three cheers for Tom!
Okay... I'll try it. But I have two questions...
1. Just what problem am I correcting?
2. Previously, I had held the GP switch for 10 to 15 seconds, prior to hitting the starter button. After I make this change, would I follow the same procedure?
bobohler@chesapeake.net
1. Just what problem am I correcting?
2. Previously, I had held the GP switch for 10 to 15 seconds, prior to hitting the starter button. After I make this change, would I follow the same procedure?
Dennis Truett wrote: All, Checked out the Westerbeke wire diagram, same thing. Works better, lasts longer, a better design then the original. Three cheers for Tom!!!!
Dennis Truett CD26d
M. R. Bober wrote: The circuit checks out fine on my Universal.
Every best wish with that new boat.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330
bobohler@chesapeake.net
Westerbeke.....Dennis tell me more!!!
Dennis,
I have a westerbeke on my CD 30 MK II. Tell me more about the change in wiring!!
Thamks,
Michael Heintz
Macht Nichts
CD 30 MK II
mzenith@aol.com
I have a westerbeke on my CD 30 MK II. Tell me more about the change in wiring!!
Thamks,
Michael Heintz
Macht Nichts
CD 30 MK II
mzenith@aol.com
Re: Three cheers for Tom!
You are avoiding a POSSIBLE problem. Now, the Glow plug button and the start button are in series. (current has to go through both of them to get to the starter) In tom's case the the Glow plug button was intermitingly going bad. Moving the wire alows you to start the engine without going through (pressing)the Glow plug buttom.
Your starting sequence can remain the same... BUT now you have this option.
1 press the glow plug button for 10-15 seconds.
2 stop pressing the the glow plug button.
3 press the start button
What this does is allows max curent for the starter while not contiuing to draw current for the Glow Plugs (which is alot) - They're already hot.
Make sure the key is off when you move the wire.
Good luck!
Dennis
Your starting sequence can remain the same... BUT now you have this option.
1 press the glow plug button for 10-15 seconds.
2 stop pressing the the glow plug button.
3 press the start button
What this does is allows max curent for the starter while not contiuing to draw current for the Glow Plugs (which is alot) - They're already hot.
Make sure the key is off when you move the wire.
Good luck!
Dennis
Bob Ohler wrote: Okay... I'll try it. But I have two questions...
1. Just what problem am I correcting?
2. Previously, I had held the GP switch for 10 to 15 seconds, prior to hitting the starter button. After I make this change, would I follow the same procedure?
Dennis Truett wrote: All, Checked out the Westerbeke wire diagram, same thing. Works better, lasts longer, a better design then the original. Three cheers for Tom!!!!
Dennis Truett CD26d
M. R. Bober wrote: The circuit checks out fine on my Universal.
Every best wish with that new boat.
Mitchell Bober
RESPITE
CD330