Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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pvisich
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Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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So I purchased a CD 330 (Grateful) and have had some issues sailing with the staysail. When tacking the yankee sail gets partially filled behind the back of the staysail and I can't get it to flip over unless I walk up there. If I partially roll in the head sail before tacking I can avoid this issue somewhat, but that can be a challenge with frequent tacking. I am sure others have had this issue and wondered what solutions are best.

Secondly, I am curious what folks thoughts are on switching the staysail from a hank on sail to a roller furling and does this help with the problem I mentioned above.

Thanks Fellow CD Sailors and Hope You are All Enjoying the Summer, Paul
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Re: Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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The classic problem with cutters!

You can have a sailmaker put sailcloth covers over the staysail hanks. The covers are sewn on one side of the sail, lay over the hanks, and attach with velcro on the other side of the sail. These can help keep the headsail from snagging on the hanks.

You can leave the staysail backed while tacking to help the headsail blow through a little easier, though this is only a minor help.

You can make the inner stay removable, and if you are doing a lot of tacking remove the inner stay and use the boat as a sloop; only fly the staysail when you are offshore and not tacking a lot.

Smooth sailing,

Jim
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Re: Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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I short tack all the time without difficulty. I have made several changes to my boat to making tacking as effortless and as simple and reliable as possible. First, I replaced the wire stays'l with one made of dyneema. It's slick and reduces friction. Second, I removed the hanks and replaced them with brass luff rings. Once again, less friction. Last, I made the dyneema forestay easy to detach. I leave the stays'l on the stay (remember those luff rings). I release the forestay via a 2:1 dyneema pendant and pull the forestay with stays'l still attached and in the bag, aft to the side deck or cabin top. Then, the fore-triangle is open and the big jib tacks as easily as a sloop.

Here are links on how I set it up.

https://farreachvoyages.net/2017/10/23/ ... /#more-868


https://farreachvoyages.net/2017/12/10/ ... uff-rings/
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Re: Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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John Stone wrote:I short tack all the time without difficulty. I have made several changes to my boat to making tacking as effortless and as simple and reliable as possible. First, I replaced the wire stays'l with one made of dyneema. It's slick and reduces friction. Second, I removed the hanks and replaced them with brass luff rings. Once again, less friction. Last, I made the dyneema forestay easy to detach. I leave the stays'l on the stay (remember those luff rings). I release the forestay via a 2:1 dyneema pendant and pull the forestay with stays'l still attached and in the bag, aft to the side deck or cabin top. Then, the fore-triangle is open and the big jib tacks as easily as a sloop.

Here are links on how I set it up.

https://farreachvoyages.net/2017/10/23/ ... /#more-868


https://farreachvoyages.net/2017/12/10/ ... uff-rings/
And you also added a much longer bowsprit than on a stock Cape Dory, so I would guess that the slot that your headsail has to go through is much bigger, too.

--Jim
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Re: Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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wikakaru wrote:
John Stone wrote:I short tack all the time without difficulty. I have made several changes to my boat to making tacking as effortless and as simple and reliable as possible. First, I replaced the wire stays'l with one made of dyneema. It's slick and reduces friction. Second, I removed the hanks and replaced them with brass luff rings. Once again, less friction. Last, I made the dyneema forestay easy to detach. I leave the stays'l on the stay (remember those luff rings). I release the forestay via a 2:1 dyneema pendant and pull the forestay with stays'l still attached and in the bag, aft to the side deck or cabin top. Then, the fore-triangle is open and the big jib tacks as easily as a sloop.

Here are links on how I set it up.

https://farreachvoyages.net/2017/10/23/ ... /#more-868


https://farreachvoyages.net/2017/12/10/ ... uff-rings/
And you also added a much longer bowsprit than on a stock Cape Dory, so I would guess that the slot that your headsail has to go through is much bigger, too.

--Jim
No. I don't think so. I also moved the tack of the stays'l to the gammon iron on the stem of the boat. So about the same I think.
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Re: Staysail Sailing on a CD 330

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John Stone wrote:No. I don't think so. I also moved the tack of the stays'l to the gammon iron on the stem of the boat. So about the same I think.
Oh, I forgot you had done it that way. I think it's more traditional the way you have it. I like it.

--Jim
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