changing winches

[Mike Amoruso]

Has anyone ever changed there winches from non self tailing to self tailing. What size should I go with.

Thanks

Mike



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[Ben Thomas]

Has anyone ever changed there winches from non self tailing to self tailing. What size should I go with.

Thanks

Mike

Mike, I have a cd 30 cutter, just this winter changed out all winches.
the mast halyards have the non self-tailing #10 andersons, the staysail sheet and mainsheet also the andserson #10s non self tailing. for the yankee I went with the 28st andersons and lastly the tack line for my assymetric chute the 12st anderson. these were the minimum sizes for the task and max on budget. Also anderson is offering a rebate on all their winches. check out sailnet.com on the web. The self tailing are a big improvement over the lewmars that were on the boat. It was necessary to drill new holes for the 28st. no big deal. the #10s have the same bolt pattern. easy replacement. total of 8 winches took maybe an hour. Whatever winch you decide on make sure the different manufacturers sizing matchs up. my old lewmar #6 winch is the equivilent to the anderson #10. Check sizing of existing winch on your vessel and go from there. If the loads don't change stay with same size, making sure they match up. Ben



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[Warren Kaplan]

Has anyone ever changed there winches from non self tailing to self tailing. What size should I go with.

Thanks

Mike

Mike,
Alot depends on the size of the boat you have as to which winches you change to. I sail a CD27 and last year I replaced the original equipment Lewmar 7 non tailing sheet winches with brand new Lewmar 16ST self tailers. BIG Difference!! Much more mechanical advantage when cranking in the genny and not needing the extra pair of hands to tail is priceless. Some have even suggested going up one more size (on the CD27) to Lewmar 30 ST. That would be okay too but the 16ST works just fine AND the base fits the bronze pedestal perfectly. I just had to drill some new holes for the new size. Make sure about the fit unless you want to modify the pedestal.
Warren



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[len]

mike

i have lewmar self tailing winches, two speed for the jib sheets - they are great - i added wacky winchers to the main halyard winch and the main sheet winch, they work well enough and it is much cheaper than changing winches - i haven't found a need to change any other winches

len



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[Larry DeMers]

Ben,
Care to give us your opinion of the Anderson winches? I noticed that they do not have the cross-hatching on the drum, and was curious if that effects their grip on your sheets at all? How about feel and function? They sure do look great in the ads (but then,so would I ..heh).

Thanks,

Larry DeMers
s/v DeLaMer
Cape Dory 30

Has anyone ever changed there winches from non self tailing to self tailing. What size should I go with.

Thanks

Mike

Mike, I have a cd 30 cutter, just this winter changed out all winches.
the mast halyards have the non self-tailing #10 andersons, the staysail sheet and mainsheet also the andserson #10s non self tailing. for the yankee I went with the 28st andersons and lastly the tack line for my assymetric chute the 12st anderson. these were the minimum sizes for the task and max on budget. Also anderson is offering a rebate on all their winches. check out sailnet.com on the web. The self tailing are a big improvement over the lewmars that were on the boat. It was necessary to drill new holes for the 28st. no big deal. the #10s have the same bolt pattern. easy replacement. total of 8 winches took maybe an hour. Whatever winch you decide on make sure the different manufacturers sizing matchs up. my old lewmar #6 winch is the equivilent to the anderson #10. Check sizing of existing winch on your vessel and go from there. If the loads don't change stay with same size, making sure they match up. Ben

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[Don Carr]

Larry, et al;

I have used the Andersons on J80 boats. They are great winches. The longitudinal ridges really help bite and more importantly aid in quick line release during tacking. They seem to be made of high quality stainless steel and the mechanics are very solid and smooth.



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[Warren Kaplan]

Larry,
I do believe last summer or fall, Practical Sailor did a comparison of self tailing winches. Andersen came in first overall. But just slightly ahead of Lewmar and Harken. The report said all 3 companies made excellent winches but when they added up the results of individual pluses and minuses, Andersen was on top. Not by much however.
Warren



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[Ben thomas]

Larry,
Don has it on the money! the longitudal ridges in my opinion in contrast to the older lewmars cross hatch design grip and release ten fold easier and faster. I'am calling them my sure grip grabbers.
The design is straight forward, clean with a business like simplicity that matchs the grace of cape dorys. Singlehand 80% of the time, have had a few sheet burns as the lewmars failed to stand up even with 4turns. They feel good to the touch, as with any well designed tool for a specific job. the sound is solid and smooth. overall the sense I am getting from them is "Reliable & trustworthy" which adds another layer of soundness everytime I step on board.

Hope that description wasn't to flakey or esoteric but I think thats what you meant about the "feel" Which for me is one the things that makes sailing such a passion. Its led me to rename my boat "Epiphany" (the more secular definition)
Springs around the corner! Ben



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[Ben thomas]

Larry,
Don has it on the money! the longitudal ridges in my opinion in contrast to the older lewmars cross hatch design grip and release ten fold easier and faster. I'am calling them my sure grip grabbers.
The design is straight forward, clean with a business like simplicity that matchs the grace of cape dorys. Singlehand 80% of the time, have had a few sheet burns as the lewmars failed to stand up even with 4turns. They feel good to the touch, as with any well designed tool for a specific job. the sound is solid and smooth. overall the sense I am getting from them is "Reliable & trustworthy" which adds another layer of soundness everytime I step on board.

Hope that description wasn't to flakey or esoteric but I think thats what you meant about the "feel" Which for me is one the things that makes sailing such a passion. Its led me to rename my boat "Epiphany" (the more secular definition)
Springs around the corner! Ben

[Larry DeMers]

Hey thanks Don, Warren, and Ben,

I need to replace all my winches next year..so maybe Andersons are the way to go. They have a decent sale going on now too..might be a good idea to buy now, install later. hmm.."lets see Christmas is a ways off yet..birthday was weeks ago now, so how 'bout a set of new winches for our anniversary honey?"

Cheers! -and yup, it's gettin warmer in between the -10 to -20 below nights!


Larry

Larry, et al;

I have used the Andersons on J80 boats. They are great winches. The longitudinal ridges really help bite and more importantly aid in quick line release during tacking. They seem to be made of high quality stainless steel and the mechanics are very solid and smooth.

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[Patrick Turner]

I just replaced the original Barlow sheet winches on my CD36 with Andersen 46st. They are attractive and with 3 wraps on the drum I could just about let go.....very little tension....but just as you start to loosen up the tension, the bite eases and you can pay it out. Very impressed so far. I also replace the main halyard winch with an Andersen 28st. Highly recommende....even more so now with the special deal they have going on.

Pat



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[len]

anderson winches sound good but i've always thought the all bronze lewmars (two jib sheet winches, main sheet, staysail sheet) look particularly good - i can't see changing them, or any of the four stainless winches for that matter, unless they are broken and not fixable - the only one on my boat that is at all underpowered is the two speed main sheet winch and it has never seemed worth it to me to spend close to $1000 to change that one - am I missing something?



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