Congress Extends Length of Documentation

[Doug Hill]

Yeah! See link.

http://www.bwsailing.com/cc/congress-ex ... s-vessels/

Fair Winds,
Doug

[mashenden]

Awesome!! Yearly is not uncommon for things like this, and it is a major PITA.

What makes it worse is the Renewal Notice that they sent me (OMB # 1625-0027) does not include details on how to pay the fee. It indicates where to return it (WV ), but no "Make Payable to...".

Also there are two expiration dates noted, and they do not agree. One is likely to be late, the other not. Grrrrrr.

[tjr818]

Awesome!! Yearly is not uncommon for things like this, and it is a major PITA.

What makes it worse is the Renewal Notice that they sent me (OMB # 1625-0027) does not include details on how to pay the fee. It indicates where to return it (WV ), but no "Make Payable to...".

Also there are two expiration dates noted, and they do not agree. One is likely to be late, the other not. Grrrrrr.

I struggled with those issues too. It turns out that the later expiration date is for the for form itself. Typical snafu.

[mashenden]

I struggled with those issues too. It turns out that the later expiration date is for the for form itself. Typical snafu.

and that is the one they put at the top of the page

I am going to make it payable to the US Coast Guard... and send it off to WV... with lots of mountains... and no oceans that I can recall...

[Sea Hunt Video]

Matt:

I believe you may be correct. I am not a geography professor. However, I have carefully studied all of the maps and charts available and I am unable to find an ocean or even a large lake anywhere within the borders of West Virginia. Surprise, surprise, surprise

To understand why the USCG Documentation Center is located in land-locked West Virginia one has to learn these words: "The Honorable Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia". Senator Byrd was, in addition to other high ranking positions, the chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee for six (6) years preceding the opening of the Documentation Center in West Virginia in 1995. Not a dollar was spent by anyone for anything (regardless of need, national security, etc.) without the express approval of Senator Byrd. Of course, as in all matters Congressional, approval of funds could be obtained so long as one was willing to "play ball" and practice the age old axiom of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back".

"You'all want funds for more Coast Guard cutters, better equipment, life saving helicopters "

"Why sure, that's a fine thing. We just need to see if maybe there might be a possibility of you'all considering establishing your little vessel documentation center in the lovely state of West Virginia. I'm sure that as soon as you give the green light of approval on that little matter we can find the funds to buy you'all some new choppers, and big boats, and stuff"

"Now, never you mind about West Virginia being land-locked and maybe a strange place to have the US Coast Guard. Believe me when I tell you'all there are some things a lot stranger than that in West Virginia, yes siree bob".

Mr. Smith Goes To Washington was not just a great movie. It was an early version of reality TV.

[mashenden]

... To understand why the USCG Documentation Center is located in land-locked West Virginia one has to learn these words: "The Honorable Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia". Senator Byrd was, in addition to other high ranking positions, the chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee for six (6) years preceding the opening of the Documentation Center in West Virginia in 1995....

You are exactly right!! Before moving to VA, I lived in WV. I find it downright hysterical that they have the checks go to a town called Falling Waters.

Another amusing WV water story... While attending WVIT, I lived in a little town on the Kanawha River called Falls View (population < 200 at the time). Now, I did my fair share of silliness while attending school in that area, but I swear I did not hide a waterfall. There is not a Falls to be Viewed in that town, anywhere, trust me. Well... story has it that Falls View and Glen Ferris (which has a very pretty waterfall) applied for their names at the same time, but the paperwork got switched. And nobody could or would fix the mistake

Over the years, some have doubted the validity of this story, but it makes as much sense as naming a town without a waterfall, Falls View, right?

[bottomscraper]

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[Jim Walsh]

Matt:

I believe you may be correct. I am not a geography professor. However, I have carefully studied all of the maps and charts available and I am unable to find an ocean or even a large lake anywhere within the borders of West Virginia. Surprise, surprise, surprise

To understand why the USCG Documentation Center is located in land-locked West Virginia one has to learn these words: "The Honorable Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia". Senator Byrd was, in addition to other high ranking positions, the chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee for six (6) years preceding the opening of the Documentation Center in West Virginia in 1995. Not a dollar was spent by anyone for anything (regardless of need, national security, etc.) without the express approval of Senator Byrd. Of course, as in all matters Congressional, approval of funds could be obtained so long as one was willing to "play ball" and practice the age old axiom of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back".

"You'all want funds for more Coast Guard cutters, better equipment, life saving helicopters "

"Why sure, that's a fine thing. We just need to see if maybe there might be a possibility of you'all considering establishing your little vessel documentation center in the lovely state of West Virginia. I'm sure that as soon as you give the green light of approval on that little matter we can find the funds to buy you'all some new choppers, and big boats, and stuff"

"Now, never you mind about West Virginia being land-locked and maybe a strange place to have the US Coast Guard. Believe me when I tell you'all there are some things a lot stranger than that in West Virginia, yes siree bob".

Mr. Smith Goes To Washington was not just a great movie. It was an early version of reality TV.

There may not be an "Ocean" in West Virginia, but they do have a town named "Oceana"!

[tjr818]

...To understand why the USCG Documentation Center is located in land-locked West Virginia one has to learn these words: "The Honorable Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia". Senator Byrd was, in addition to other high ranking positions, the chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee for six (6) years preceding the opening of the Documentation Center in West Virginia in 1995. Not a dollar was spent by anyone for anything (regardless of need, national security, etc.) without the express approval of Senator Byrd. Of course, as in all matters Congressional, approval of funds could be obtained so long as one was willing to "play ball" and practice the age old axiom of "you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back".
Mr. Smith Goes To Washington was not just a great movie. It was an early version of reality TV.

Not to start another "locked prop Vs. unlocked" debate, but I do wish that people like Sen. Byrd were in there now, at least SOMETHING would be getting done. The might even have the Corps build a water fall for Fall View.

[Joe Myerson]

My Norton warned me off that website, too. So, I'll wait to receive notification of the extension from the USCG.

BTW, I have always found the Documentation Center to be very responsive, and I've always received my renewal notice in plenty of time, and my new Doc. always arrives before the old one expires.

Possibly, with no ocean nearby, the Coasties in Falling Waters have nothing better to do than their jobs.

And, yes, I agree that Sen. Byrd was certainly responsible for the Documentation Center's location. I guess nobody from Wyoming or North Dakota had sufficient seniority at the time.

--Joe

[Doug Jesseman]

To renew your Documentation papers send a check to the "United States Coast Guard" for $ 26 and your will receive you papers within 14 days. I view it as a donation.

[Sea Hunt Video]

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[Sea Hunt Video]

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[Paul D.]

Regarding the USCG center being positioned in WV. The story of Senator Byrd influencing the decision to build in his state is exactly right on.

I had the good fortune to attend a multi day training at the National Conservation Training Center in Shepherdstown, WV - a beautiful and very 'no expense spared' facility built for government staff from the US Fish & Wildlife and other agencies. Even the food was fantastic.

The people in the community openly referred to the many places such as this as "Byrd Droppings".

Imagine if we could only get a Senator that powerful who's a Cape Dory sailor!

[bottomscraper]

I do not know why Norton doesn't like the bwsailing web site but I would much rather be safe than sorry.

This is what I see when I go there: