How do you tune your rig?

pete faga · Post by **pete faga** » Oct 10th, '15, 20:36

I pay the rigger $90.

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Roberto
That's as much as 2 bottles of single malt

Joe Myerson · Post by **Joe Myerson** » Oct 11th, '15, 12:10

I do have a Loos gauge, which I found deep in one of the lockers underneath the starboard settee. I used it once or twice, but was never sure I was doing it correctly. More recently, since I've been having a boat yard haul and launch my 25D, I've adopted Roberto's approach to rig tuning.

Joei

jbenagh · Post by **jbenagh** » Oct 13th, '15, 20:06

tjr818 wrote: "Headstays and backstays should never be taken up so tightly that they will not 'give' an inch or so if you pull on them with moderate force. Upper shrouds should also be tightened equally and have about an inch of 'give' to them. Forward lower shrouds should have one to two inches of 'give', and the aft lowers slightly more. "

When I checked out Christine C this weekend, which I had set up with the Loos earlier in the season, this is just about exactly what tension I have. Good to know that the consensus agrees with Carl!

Jeff

Neil Gordon · Post by **Neil Gordon** » Oct 14th, '15, 06:38

pete faga wrote:I pay the rigger $90.

Roberto
That's as much as 2 bottles of single malt[/quote]

Hmmm... closer to just 1 bottle of single malt, I'm afraid.

tjr818 · Post by **tjr818** » Oct 14th, '15, 08:59

Neil Gordon wrote:
pete faga wrote:I pay the rigger $90.
Roberto
That's as much as 2 bottles of single malt

Hmmm... closer to just 1 bottle of single malt, I'm afraid.[/quote]
More appropriately, that is almost three cases of Guinness

Steve Laume · Post by **Steve Laume** » Oct 14th, '15, 13:55

If any of you were to spring for a Loos gauge I trust you would still find a few coins to buy your favorite beverage.

I was concerned with the rig tension when I first got Raven. That was over ten years ago, now. I heard the advise about how much play there should be and always wondered how hard and where you were expected to push on the wire to make that determination. Then there was the sound tuning where you listen to the wires and try to match the tone. I love music but have never been able to play anything so was unshure how good my ear might be and just what tone I was looking for. Do you use a tuning fork for the appropriate wire or one of the new electric tuners?

I soon purchased a Loos gauge and never looked back. It gives me actual numbers to work with. There is still a bunch of fussing to get things right. Maybe even more than if you were tuning by feel where you might just say it seems good enough. When I first checked my rig, it seemed to be pretty well set up but the gauge revealed an entirely different situation. The lowers were the big problem. While everything was nicely aligned it was being done with vast differences in diagonally opposed shrouds. I knew I would be pushing my rig at times and wanted to be sure it was tight enough but also that I wasn't over stressing any single wire. Maybe this can be done by feel but I would love to put a gauge on some of these rigs and see what the numbers say. My mast generally stays in so I don't need to set it up every year. I still check it on a regular basis. Definitely before every major trip. Having actual numbers to compare will also tell you if something has changed and you should be looking for problems a bit more carefully.

While that gauge may seem like a bit of money, you only ever need to buy it once. So in ten years I would have paid $900 to have a rigger check it just once a season. I figure I am up a whole lot of nice IPA at this point, Steve.

Jim Walsh · Post by **Jim Walsh** » Oct 14th, '15, 14:13

Well stated , Steve.

Even I tired of being subjective and decided to be objective. It was an eye opener and I'm happy with my decision.

tjr818 · Post by **tjr818** » Oct 14th, '15, 16:03

I am not sure what size stays and shrouds are on all of the different CD models, but on the CD27 the lowers require the purchase of a second Loos gauge

Either the Model A and the Model B, or both the PT-1 and the PT-2. I imagine that some models would require all three Loos gauges

Jim Walsh · Post by **Jim Walsh** » Oct 14th, '15, 18:42

tjr818 wrote:I am not sure what size stays and shrouds are on all of the different CD models, but on the CD27 the lowers require the purchase of a second Loos gauge Either the Model A and the Model B, or both the PT-1 and the PT-2. I imagine that some models would require all three Loos gauges

I have three different sizes of wire in my standing rigging but the PT-2 handles all three sizes I have. If anyone wants to borrow my gage just PM me.

jbenagh · Post by **jbenagh** » Oct 14th, '15, 21:40

Steve said it better than I could. The gauge allows much better accuracy in measurement than I could achieve by listening to the octave of the twang. As I said, the results of tuning with the gauge seem to be in the same range as tuning according to Arlberg. Probably just more consistent.
And, yes, the wire sizes on the CD30 need only one gauge.
Jeff

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