New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
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New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
We got the spinnaker flying this summer, and shot some video to help get us through the winter. Enjoy!
Link: http://youtu.be/Zja7NHgY3fk
John
CD36 Tiara
Link: http://youtu.be/Zja7NHgY3fk
John
CD36 Tiara
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Re: New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
Great thanks for sharing.
Sincerely,
Chris B.
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Chris B.
http://bristol-blue.blogspot.com/
"It is the Average Sailor, the one who will never set any records or win any major trophies, who really populates the sailing world." Ray Whitaker
"Never tell a young person that something cannot be done. God may have waited for centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing."- John Andrew Holmes
Re: New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
John,
Thanks for posting your video. Great spinnaker shots and a beautiful boat. Makes me want to try flying one. Looking ahead to doing so, I found myself studying your setup.
Hard to tell with the wide angle camera but your spinnaker appears to be symmetrical. If so, flying it without a pole appears quite doable. I ask because my boat came with a symmetrical spinnaker and I would like to try flying it without using a pole. Also, is your tack connected to the pulpit - or does it just look like that in the video?
Any other thoughts for a first time would be spinnaker flyer would be appreciated.
Gary
Thanks for posting your video. Great spinnaker shots and a beautiful boat. Makes me want to try flying one. Looking ahead to doing so, I found myself studying your setup.
Hard to tell with the wide angle camera but your spinnaker appears to be symmetrical. If so, flying it without a pole appears quite doable. I ask because my boat came with a symmetrical spinnaker and I would like to try flying it without using a pole. Also, is your tack connected to the pulpit - or does it just look like that in the video?
Any other thoughts for a first time would be spinnaker flyer would be appreciated.
Gary
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Re: New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
Thanks!
It's an asymmetric chute in a sock, pretty easy to fly. I think a symmetrical would need a pole all the time to hold the windward edge out, as it would be wider in that direction. This asymetric is just full enough to fly dead down wind, flies wing & wing well, but it's flat enough to fly like a big genoa if the apparent wind is as far forward as square to the beam. Just snug the tack down tighter, the luff gets flat, and the asymmetric acts like a big genoa. You'll see it flown down wind, wing & wing, and as a genoa in the video. Its very a versatile sail and really gets the boat going in light winds.
The attachment for my tack is decidedly low tech - just a stainless ring lashed to the pulpit. The tack line itself is only 12' long, and I secure it to a mooring cleat. I fly it with just one sheet, but you could set it up with two sheets for tacking like a genoa.
Best,
John
CD36 Tiara
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How long is the pole that the camera is on?
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Re: New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
The GoPro is out on a three part telescopic boat hook from West Marine, about 10' out when extended. It's the wide angle lens (1080/30fps/Wide setting) that makes everything look far off.bottomscraper wrote:How long is the pole that the camera is on?
I use a Jaws Flex Clamp to hold the camera, great for grabbing poles & rails quickly & securely. Works great around the boat.
John
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John, thanks for your wonderful video of Tiara under sail, at the mooring field, etc… I can't get tired of watching it, over and over… your boat, inside and out looks so nice. A question on the GoPro… what number camera is that one and how do you get to see the shot you are framing, especially when you have it out on the pole?
Those little cameras are amazing, aren't they?
Zeida
Those little cameras are amazing, aren't they?
Zeida
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Thanks Zeida!
Yes, the little GoPro cameras are great, tiny cameras that produce amazing outdoor video. I'm using the previous generation GoPro - a Hero3 Black. The current models are a little smaller, little better. Mine has built in WiFi that feeds a signal to my iPhone if I want to see the shot. This feature doesn't work in all modes, but works fine in 1080/30, 1080/60, and 2.7k. I don't use the WiFi to view the shot often - lots of lag/delay to it. Generally, I just hoist the camera out there and shoot by eye.
Cheers,
John
Yes, the little GoPro cameras are great, tiny cameras that produce amazing outdoor video. I'm using the previous generation GoPro - a Hero3 Black. The current models are a little smaller, little better. Mine has built in WiFi that feeds a signal to my iPhone if I want to see the shot. This feature doesn't work in all modes, but works fine in 1080/30, 1080/60, and 2.7k. I don't use the WiFi to view the shot often - lots of lag/delay to it. Generally, I just hoist the camera out there and shoot by eye.
Cheers,
John
Sailing involves the courage to cherish adventure and the wisdom to fear danger. Knowing where one ends, and the other begins, makes all the difference.
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Part of the fun of the Go Pro is that you never know what you shot until you get home and look at it. With the super wide angle lens, perfect framing is not that critical. Just point in the general direction and you usually get a good shot. I find that using the wifi/iphone app decreases battery life so I don't usually bother with it.
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I, too, enjoyed your video - Thanks! Where did you get the asymetical spinnaker? I saw Doyle on another sail on your boat - is it Doyle too?
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That was a great video! I got a Go Pro last year and have yet to take it on the boat.
I could never get away with flying the spinnaker off of Raven's bow rail. Hers does not have that vertical piece or the cross bar, between the upper and lower rails. I don't think I would feel comfortable pulling the boat along by just the top rail alone.
What I did was to drill a hole in my anchor roller and put a shackle and block on it. This gets the tack down as low and and as far forward as possible. With your dual roller set up, you might be able to find a bail that would bolt between them and add a block to that.
I run the tack line all the way back to the cockpit and put it on a winch. You can use the other spinnaker sheet that isn't worth rigging up. I usually set up the spinnaker with the tack line led back to the mast, where I rig the sail. Once it is up and the sock goes up, I can go back to the cockpit and adjust the tack line and the sheet. When It comes time to douse, I release the tack so the sail, hopefully, falls in behind the main and pull the sock down from there.
It is a whole lot safer and easier to control the tack when the line is on a winch, Steve.
I could never get away with flying the spinnaker off of Raven's bow rail. Hers does not have that vertical piece or the cross bar, between the upper and lower rails. I don't think I would feel comfortable pulling the boat along by just the top rail alone.
What I did was to drill a hole in my anchor roller and put a shackle and block on it. This gets the tack down as low and and as far forward as possible. With your dual roller set up, you might be able to find a bail that would bolt between them and add a block to that.
I run the tack line all the way back to the cockpit and put it on a winch. You can use the other spinnaker sheet that isn't worth rigging up. I usually set up the spinnaker with the tack line led back to the mast, where I rig the sail. Once it is up and the sock goes up, I can go back to the cockpit and adjust the tack line and the sheet. When It comes time to douse, I release the tack so the sail, hopefully, falls in behind the main and pull the sock down from there.
It is a whole lot safer and easier to control the tack when the line is on a winch, Steve.
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My goal for next season is to fly a spinnaker from my 22D. As the 22 has no attachment point forward of the genoa furler, I see the following options-
- Use the pulpit as John does (mine is not reinforced either - hard to determine how much stress would be on it).
- Use an ATN Tacker that goes around the furled genoa (not ideal for a number of reasons).
- Concoct a temporary bowsprit using a spinnaker pole (seems too clumsy).
At this point, I am leaning towards the ATN tacker. Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt_G0uVc5iY
- Use the pulpit as John does (mine is not reinforced either - hard to determine how much stress would be on it).
- Use an ATN Tacker that goes around the furled genoa (not ideal for a number of reasons).
- Concoct a temporary bowsprit using a spinnaker pole (seems too clumsy).
At this point, I am leaning towards the ATN tacker. Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt_G0uVc5iY
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Re: New Video - CD36 Spinnaker
Very nice, as usual. I have high expectations whenever Ring Productions releases a video and it never fails to disappoint.
Aloha,
Bob Chinn
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