I'm wondering if there is anyone who has any information regarding a
successful(or unsuccessful)circumnavigation made in a C.D. Typhoon.
I have heard random stories here and there, and have passed them on
as documented facts when boasting to others about the sea worthiness
of my own T. But up until now, I have not been able to verify an
actual trip around the earth.
Also, if there is anybody other than myself who regularly goes on
extended cruises in their Typhoon I would be interested in hearing
from them. An old man I befriended at the Rumry Boat Yard (Biddeford
Maine) a few years ago told me about a group of older men from Maine
who would sail together annually from Maine to the Bahamas "motorcycle
gang" style, each man in his own respective Typhoon. Can anybody
verify that legend?
Nick Friedman
121 N.E. 8th St
Gainesville, Fl. 32601
nfrie70136@aol.com
circumnavigating in a Typhoon
Moderator: Jim Walsh
Re: circumnavigating in a Typhoon
I know a guy who took his girl friend with him on a cruise from City Island, NY to Block Island, RI. Had some foul weather but nothing that would make you think your life was in danger. Nonetheless when they arrived on Block. She took her bag and grabed the first ferry out. He never spoke to her again.
I loved my Typhoon and it's up to the task. I sailed a weekender 1975 edition. It's the person not always the boat. Good luck in your quest.
saltzman@aecom.yu.edu or saltzma@ibm.net
I loved my Typhoon and it's up to the task. I sailed a weekender 1975 edition. It's the person not always the boat. Good luck in your quest.
nick friedman wrote: I'm wondering if there is anyone who has any information regarding a
successful(or unsuccessful)circumnavigation made in a C.D. Typhoon.
I have heard random stories here and there, and have passed them on
as documented facts when boasting to others about the sea worthiness
of my own T. But up until now, I have not been able to verify an
actual trip around the earth.
Also, if there is anybody other than myself who regularly goes on
extended cruises in their Typhoon I would be interested in hearing
from them. An old man I befriended at the Rumry Boat Yard (Biddeford
Maine) a few years ago told me about a group of older men from Maine
who would sail together annually from Maine to the Bahamas "motorcycle
gang" style, each man in his own respective Typhoon. Can anybody
verify that legend?
Nick Friedman
121 N.E. 8th St
Gainesville, Fl. 32601
saltzman@aecom.yu.edu or saltzma@ibm.net
Re: circumnavigating in a Typhoon
I also loved my 1975 Typhoon weekender when I owned it. That boat probably has the biggest soft spot in my heart of any boat I've ever owned, including PERI. I was also VERY impressed with the ruggedness and capability of that boat and would often go out with reefed main and reefed working jib in stuff that most people would stay home from. However, that is a very different situation from committing one's self to a long offshore trip.
With some luck, you can circumnavigate in a bath tub. Good sense and the odds for surviving and succeeding in a long offshore trip indicates movement up in capability from some basic level. I would never consider a typhoon satisfactory for a true offshore journey where one is committed to be out there regardless of what comes up. First, the size of the cockpit in relation to the size of the enclosed area is a real problem. A wave filling that cockpit would serously affect the boat. Secondly just the weight of the stores necessary to support offshore cruising times and the extra supplies would seriously weigh down a Typhoon making that cockpit an even more vulnerable target to uncontrolled water ballast. The single lower shroud arrangement on the mast doesn't give me a lot of comfort in terms of that mast surviving a severe storm or even a wave dumping into either of the sails. Even my beloved typhoon (the first PERI, by the way) had the deck raising problem at the shroud tangs that has been a concern to Typhoons of that era, it's a rugged boat, but not really built to the stresses of offshore standards.
Could one modify a Typhoon into something that could make an offshore trip. Probably so, people have crossed oceans in smaller boats built to the standards and watertight as a ping pong ball to stay afloat. Do that to a Typhoon, and it's not a Typhoon anymore with any of the beloved Typhoon characteristics.
I would consider an overnight sail from Florida to the Bahamas, or a coastal off shore trip in one, but then one has ports of refuge within a few hours sail that one can duck into should the weather indicate it's going to be really lousy.
If I wanted a smaller boat to do true offshore cruising, then I'd probably consider something like a Flicka, built, stressed and designed for that kind of use.
Anyhow, my two cents worth.
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
jon9@ix.netcom.com
With some luck, you can circumnavigate in a bath tub. Good sense and the odds for surviving and succeeding in a long offshore trip indicates movement up in capability from some basic level. I would never consider a typhoon satisfactory for a true offshore journey where one is committed to be out there regardless of what comes up. First, the size of the cockpit in relation to the size of the enclosed area is a real problem. A wave filling that cockpit would serously affect the boat. Secondly just the weight of the stores necessary to support offshore cruising times and the extra supplies would seriously weigh down a Typhoon making that cockpit an even more vulnerable target to uncontrolled water ballast. The single lower shroud arrangement on the mast doesn't give me a lot of comfort in terms of that mast surviving a severe storm or even a wave dumping into either of the sails. Even my beloved typhoon (the first PERI, by the way) had the deck raising problem at the shroud tangs that has been a concern to Typhoons of that era, it's a rugged boat, but not really built to the stresses of offshore standards.
Could one modify a Typhoon into something that could make an offshore trip. Probably so, people have crossed oceans in smaller boats built to the standards and watertight as a ping pong ball to stay afloat. Do that to a Typhoon, and it's not a Typhoon anymore with any of the beloved Typhoon characteristics.
I would consider an overnight sail from Florida to the Bahamas, or a coastal off shore trip in one, but then one has ports of refuge within a few hours sail that one can duck into should the weather indicate it's going to be really lousy.
If I wanted a smaller boat to do true offshore cruising, then I'd probably consider something like a Flicka, built, stressed and designed for that kind of use.
Anyhow, my two cents worth.
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
Paul Saltzman wrote: I know a guy who took his girl friend with him on a cruise from City Island, NY to Block Island, RI. Had some foul weather but nothing that would make you think your life was in danger. Nonetheless when they arrived on Block. She took her bag and grabed the first ferry out. He never spoke to her again.
I loved my Typhoon and it's up to the task. I sailed a weekender 1975 edition. It's the person not always the boat. Good luck in your quest.
nick friedman wrote: I'm wondering if there is anyone who has any information regarding a
successful(or unsuccessful)circumnavigation made in a C.D. Typhoon.
I have heard random stories here and there, and have passed them on
as documented facts when boasting to others about the sea worthiness
of my own T. But up until now, I have not been able to verify an
actual trip around the earth.
Also, if there is anybody other than myself who regularly goes on
extended cruises in their Typhoon I would be interested in hearing
from them. An old man I befriended at the Rumry Boat Yard (Biddeford
Maine) a few years ago told me about a group of older men from Maine
who would sail together annually from Maine to the Bahamas "motorcycle
gang" style, each man in his own respective Typhoon. Can anybody
verify that legend?
Nick Friedman
121 N.E. 8th St
Gainesville, Fl. 32601
nick friedman wrote:
jon9@ix.netcom.com
Re: circumnavigating in a Typhoon
last summer my boyfriend and I sailed from Boston to Bois Bubert (east of Schoodic), points in between, and back. Two and a half months out, and we were ready to come in (it was mid October by then, though, the weather had a lot to do with it). This was my first sailing experience on a small boat, and consequently I would not go further than about 10 miles offshore... I agree with the other guy that the cockpit is Too large and cannot drain fast enough. Also we had her set up with a water tank under the cockpit sole--very convenient if you also need to makee room for two people, camping equipment, full snorkel gear (wetsuits, fins, belts, etc) a galley and about two-three weeks of food (with some foraging involved). But tthis, with us onboard, caused her butt to dip into the water, ruining her lines andd making her slower and more difficult to handle. I thhink that it's a coastal boat, but we could've gone on for a long time on the coast. There was more than enough room on the boat for toys and provision, it is the weight, though..Jon Larson wrote: I also loved my 1975 Typhoon weekender when I owned it. That boat probably has the biggest soft spot in my heart of any boat I've ever owned, including PERI. I was also VERY impressed with the ruggedness and capability of that boat and would often go out with reefed main and reefed working jib in stuff that most people would stay home from. However, that is a very different situation from committing one's self to a long offshore trip.
With some luck, you can circumnavigate in a bath tub. Good sense and the odds for surviving and succeeding in a long offshore trip indicates movement up in capability from some basic level. I would never consider a typhoon satisfactory for a true offshore journey where one is committed to be out there regardless of what comes up. First, the size of the cockpit in relation to the size of the enclosed area is a real problem. A wave filling that cockpit would serously affect the boat. Secondly just the weight of the stores necessary to support offshore cruising times and the extra supplies would seriously weigh down a Typhoon making that cockpit an even more vulnerable target to uncontrolled water ballast. The single lower shroud arrangement on the mast doesn't give me a lot of comfort in terms of that mast surviving a severe storm or even a wave dumping into either of the sails. Even my beloved typhoon (the first PERI, by the way) had the deck raising problem at the shroud tangs that has been a concern to Typhoons of that era, it's a rugged boat, but not really built to the stresses of offshore standards.
Could one modify a Typhoon into something that could make an offshore trip. Probably so, people have crossed oceans in smaller boats built to the standards and watertight as a ping pong ball to stay afloat. Do that to a Typhoon, and it's not a Typhoon anymore with any of the beloved Typhoon characteristics.
I would consider an overnight sail from Florida to the Bahamas, or a coastal off shore trip in one, but then one has ports of refuge within a few hours sail that one can duck into should the weather indicate it's going to be really lousy.
If I wanted a smaller boat to do true offshore cruising, then I'd probably consider something like a Flicka, built, stressed and designed for that kind of use.
Anyhow, my two cents worth.
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
Paul Saltzman wrote: I know a guy who took his girl friend with him on a cruise from City Island, NY to Block Island, RI. Had some foul weather but nothing that would make you think your life was in danger. Nonetheless when they arrived on Block. She took her bag and grabed the first ferry out. He never spoke to her again.
I loved my Typhoon and it's up to the task. I sailed a weekender 1975 edition. It's the person not always the boat. Good luck in your quest.
nick friedman wrote: I'm wondering if there is anyone who has any information regarding a
successful(or unsuccessful)circumnavigation made in a C.D. Typhoon.
I have heard random stories here and there, and have passed them on
as documented facts when boasting to others about the sea worthiness
of my own T. But up until now, I have not been able to verify an
actual trip around the earth.
Also, if there is anybody other than myself who regularly goes on
extended cruises in their Typhoon I would be interested in hearing
from them. An old man I befriended at the Rumry Boat Yard (Biddeford
Maine) a few years ago told me about a group of older men from Maine
who would sail together annually from Maine to the Bahamas "motorcycle
gang" style, each man in his own respective Typhoon. Can anybody
verify that legend?
Nick Friedman
121 N.E. 8th St
Gainesville, Fl. 32601
nick friedman wrote:
Paul Saltzman wrote:nick friedman wrote:
We heard a story about a solo atlantic crossing by a woman on a typhoon, but it was only hearsay. Also, in my travels, I have heard of the occasional soloer making it from New Engalnd to the Caribbean (met one guy who did it) and in St. John/St.. Thomas area have seen a number of typhoons,,, including one with a very out of date Salem MA mooring permit.
I'll tell you the biggest problem from long-term sailing on the typhoon I had--my back still hurts from sleeping on foam cushions and 12 hour days in that cockkpit, with no back support...my boyfriend says he felt it too
What're your experiences?
jemorton@earthlink.com
RE: navigating in a Typhoon
If you have back problems after spending long hours on your boat you might find the Sport-A-Seat will provide a solution. See www.Sportaseat.com Lynne
paradise@sportaseat.com
jessica morton wrote:last summer my boyfriend and I sailed from Boston to Bois Bubert (east of Schoodic), points in between, and back. Two and a half months out, and we were ready to come in (it was mid October by then, though, the weather had a lot to do with it). This was my first sailing experience on a small boat, and consequently I would not go further than about 10 miles offshore... I agree with the other guy that the cockpit is Too large and cannot drain fast enough. Also we had her set up with a water tank under the cockpit sole--very convenient if you also need to makee room for two people, camping equipment, full snorkel gear (wetsuits, fins, belts, etc) a galley and about two-three weeks of food (with some foraging involved). But tthis, with us onboard, caused her butt to dip into the water, ruining her lines andd making her slower and more difficult to handle. I thhink that it's a coastal boat, but we could've gone on for a long time on the coast. There was more than enough room on the boat for toys and provision, it is the weight, though..Jon Larson wrote: I also loved my 1975 Typhoon weekender when I owned it. That boat probably has the biggest soft spot in my heart of any boat I've ever owned, including PERI. I was also VERY impressed with the ruggedness and capability of that boat and would often go out with reefed main and reefed working jib in stuff that most people would stay home from. However, that is a very different situation from committing one's self to a long offshore trip.
With some luck, you can circumnavigate in a bath tub. Good sense and the odds for surviving and succeeding in a long offshore trip indicates movement up in capability from some basic level. I would never consider a typhoon satisfactory for a true offshore journey where one is committed to be out there regardless of what comes up. First, the size of the cockpit in relation to the size of the enclosed area is a real problem. A wave filling that cockpit would serously affect the boat. Secondly just the weight of the stores necessary to support offshore cruising times and the extra supplies would seriously weigh down a Typhoon making that cockpit an even more vulnerable target to uncontrolled water ballast. The single lower shroud arrangement on the mast doesn't give me a lot of comfort in terms of that mast surviving a severe storm or even a wave dumping into either of the sails. Even my beloved typhoon (the first PERI, by the way) had the deck raising problem at the shroud tangs that has been a concern to Typhoons of that era, it's a rugged boat, but not really built to the stresses of offshore standards.
Could one modify a Typhoon into something that could make an offshore trip. Probably so, people have crossed oceans in smaller boats built to the standards and watertight as a ping pong ball to stay afloat. Do that to a Typhoon, and it's not a Typhoon anymore with any of the beloved Typhoon characteristics.
I would consider an overnight sail from Florida to the Bahamas, or a coastal off shore trip in one, but then one has ports of refuge within a few hours sail that one can duck into should the weather indicate it's going to be really lousy.
If I wanted a smaller boat to do true offshore cruising, then I'd probably consider something like a Flicka, built, stressed and designed for that kind of use.
Anyhow, my two cents worth.
Jon Larson
Cape Dory 30 PERI
San Francisco Bay
Paul Saltzman wrote: I know a guy who took his girl friend with him on a cruise from City Island, NY to Block Island, RI. Had some foul weather but nothing that would make you think your life was in danger. Nonetheless when they arrived on Block. She took her bag and grabed the first ferry out. He never spoke to her again.
I loved my Typhoon and it's up to the task. I sailed a weekender 1975 edition. It's the person not always the boat. Good luck in your quest.
Paul Saltzman wrote:
We heard a story about a solo atlantic crossing by a woman on a typhoon, but it was only hearsay. Also, in my travels, I have heard of the occasional soloer making it from New Engalnd to the Caribbean (met one guy who did it) and in St. John/St.. Thomas area have seen a number of typhoons,,, including one with a very out of date Salem MA mooring permit.
I'll tell you the biggest problem from long-term sailing on the typhoon I had--my back still hurts from sleeping on foam cushions and 12 hour days in that cockkpit, with no back support...my boyfriend says he felt it too
What're your experiences?
paradise@sportaseat.com