lazy jack or not to lazy jack?

[Chris Reinke]

This past season I have found myself sailing with just my young son as "crew". This is basically defined as single-handed sailing of my CD330. When we are out together I usually sail with just the Yankee and Main. The Yankee is on a furler so the only time I run into difficulties is when I lower the main. The drill is to heave-to under the Yankee and drop my main. The sail often blocks my view of my son in the cockpit and can be difficult to quickly fold. I am curious as to how / if the use of lazy jacks could help me. My hope is that the lazy jacks would allow me to quickly drop the main and secure it with a temporary tie until I reached the dock. Would lazy jacks provide what I am looking for. What modification need to be made to the sail? Any idea as to the overall cost for modifications?

An additional thought. Has anyone ever added a furler to their staysail? Any recommendations as to rigging and the associated costs?

Thanks,
Chris Reinke
CD330 - Innisfail



Chris.reinke@transamerica.com

[Michael Heintz]

Chris,

I Just bought a CD30mkII, It came with Lazy Jacks, which was new for me. At first I hated them, now after sailing with them, often single handed I do like them. Just had to do it right. I have a fully battened main, so the problem I was having was that if I was not RIGHT into the wind my battens would get caught on the lazy jack, and then it was a matter of up & down up & down till I finally got it up. If I can stay right into the wind it's not a problem, I have learned to work fast, get into wind, set auto pilot, run on deck and get it up. I've gotten pretty good at it. Now taking the main down......that's were they are great, down goes the main right into the lazy jack "pocket" and there it can stay till you have time to stow. If you don't have fully battened sails, I see no problems and I'm sure you will find them beneficial, and well worth it.


Michael Heintz
"Machts Nichts"
CD 30 MK II 004



mzenith@aol.com

[Bob Loewenstein]

An alternative is the Dutchman system. More invasive, requiring modification to the mainsail, but very nice. Reefing is a breeze and furling almost trivial. Furling the main can be done off the wind, too.



rfl@yerkes.uchicago.edu

[Catherine Monaghan]

Chris,

Have you seen the lazy jack kits made by Harken? They come with pretty much everything you need. BoatUS has 'em -- they ain't cheap.

catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 <a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... ization</a>, #3

This past season I have found myself sailing with just my young son as "crew". This is basically defined as single-handed sailing of my CD330. When we are out together I usually sail with just the Yankee and Main. The Yankee is on a furler so the only time I run into difficulties is when I lower the main. The drill is to heave-to under the Yankee and drop my main. The sail often blocks my view of my son in the cockpit and can be difficult to quickly fold. I am curious as to how / if the use of lazy jacks could help me. My hope is that the lazy jacks would allow me to quickly drop the main and secure it with a temporary tie until I reached the dock. Would lazy jacks provide what I am looking for. What modification need to be made to the sail? Any idea as to the overall cost for modifications?

An additional thought. Has anyone ever added a furler to their staysail? Any recommendations as to rigging and the associated costs?

Thanks,
Chris Reinke
CD330 - Innisfail

catherine_monaghan@merck.com

[mike ritenour]

Chris,

I purchased the Harken Lazy jack system before I left, I've never installed it. Why?? I've asked myself that question a lot of times, but for me it comes down to the KISS system. The more i have aloft the more things can go wrong.

I have the Harken batt car system and a fully battened main. My main will come down like a ton of bricks if I'm not careful. So far i've developed the technique of pointing the boat into the wind, engaging either the windvane or autopilot (which works better) and dropping it with little hassel.

Seems to me that the system is great for coastal sailing, but out there I don't want a jammed sail, hung up on the battens and flogging itself to death. With the batt cars, it comes down in an instant and I quickly gather it up with my custom made bungee cords. Dosen't look pretty, but it holds up until I can put it together right.

Good luck,
mike



mpr@seascan.com

[D. Stump, Hanalei]

Chris,

When I purchased Hanalei a few years ago, it did have lazy jacks installed. I didn't want the extra rigging, so I removed it. If you would like, I will sell all of it for $75.00. Used to be that Harken supplied rivets to rivet the tangs to the mast and boom, now they use sheet metal screws. I don't have the rivets, but the screws are easily obtainable. Answer back right here if you want them.

Dave Stump
Hanalei CD-30

[Chris Reinke]

Dave - Given me a call or shoot me an e-mail so we can ascertain if your set will work on my 330. If it does, then I am very interested.

Thanks - I LOVE THIS BOARD!

Chris Reinke
chris.reinke@transamerica.com
W: 914-697-2548

Chris,

When I purchased Hanalei a few years ago, it did have lazy jacks installed. I didn't want the extra rigging, so I removed it. If you would like, I will sell all of it for $75.00. Used to be that Harken supplied rivets to rivet the tangs to the mast and boom, now they use sheet metal screws. I don't have the rivets, but the screws are easily obtainable. Answer back right here if you want them.

Dave Stump
Hanalei CD-30

Chris.reinke@transamerica.com

[yves feder w1ux]

Jeff Morgan, one of the riggers at Dodson's in Stonington, put together a set of lazy jacks using really nice, soft line and spliced nylon eyes, on our CD27 "Alphee". We drilled and tapped the mast for the two padeyes and cleats on either side, securing everything with SS machine screws. No sheet metal screws. Total cost about $225 and works so slick dunno why I never used lazy jacks before on this or our previous boats. Incredible labor and hassle saver when dropping the main in any usual conditions. With a little care, the battens just don't catch or foul.

Love 'em!
Yves



saltwater@tinyradio.com

[Warren Stringer]

This past season I have found myself sailing with just my young son as "crew". This is basically defined as single-handed sailing of my CD330. When we are out together I usually sail with just the Yankee and Main. The Yankee is on a furler so the only time I run into difficulties is when I lower the main. The drill is to heave-to under the Yankee and drop my main. The sail often blocks my view of my son in the cockpit and can be difficult to quickly fold. I am curious as to how / if the use of lazy jacks could help me. My hope is that the lazy jacks would allow me to quickly drop the main and secure it with a temporary tie until I reached the dock. Would lazy jacks provide what I am looking for. What modification need to be made to the sail? Any idea as to the overall cost for modifications?

An additional thought. Has anyone ever added a furler to their staysail? Any recommendations as to rigging and the associated costs?

Thanks,
Chris Reinke
CD330 - Innisfail

We added lazyjacks to Eendracht two years ago and love them. Ours lead down to small cleats on the mast so we can slack them to allow a shade awning to be laid over the boom, also to prevent any chafe when sailing. They have five falls per side and all junctions are spliced so there is no hardware rubbing the sail. Catching the battens when raising the sail has not been much of a problem. They also do a fairly good job of catching the reefing lines when we drop the sail.

Warren
S/V Eendracht
CD 36 #54



wstringer@aristotle.net

[Mike Everett]

This post is about a month late, but perhaps it might be useful to someone.

Our CD28 came with a homemade lazyjack with three falls per side. It works fine for us.

The best part is that it costs very little. It consists of six eye straps (one pair on the mast and two pairs on the boom) and about sixty feet of quarter-inch line. Total cost - about $25.

Mike Everett
s/v Dr. Pepper




everett@megalink.net