Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Moderator: Jim Walsh
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
I am considering purchasing a 1982 CD25D. My experience
has been with much lighter, smaller boats. Most recently a
West Wight Potter 19' . Most of the time (90% ?) I sail
singlehanded or with my 8 yr old daughter. Am also
considering the CD25. Although the larger cabin with its
standing head room (I'm 5' 10") is very attractive, I do not
want to get a boat that I need to wrestle with to sail
singlehanded.
I'm looking for reassurances from experienced CD25D skippers
that raising, lowering, reefing sails (the boat I'm looking
at has roller furling on the jib, so head sail changes
aren't an issue), tacking and jibing, winching in the genoa
sheets are not going to be difficult to handle with just
myself (with one eye on my child). Would welcome thosed
more experienced than myself sharing their impressions of
singlehanding the 25-D.
Thanks.
joels@ids.net
I am considering purchasing a 1982 CD25D. My experience
has been with much lighter, smaller boats. Most recently a
West Wight Potter 19' . Most of the time (90% ?) I sail
singlehanded or with my 8 yr old daughter. Am also
considering the CD25. Although the larger cabin with its
standing head room (I'm 5' 10") is very attractive, I do not
want to get a boat that I need to wrestle with to sail
singlehanded.
I'm looking for reassurances from experienced CD25D skippers
that raising, lowering, reefing sails (the boat I'm looking
at has roller furling on the jib, so head sail changes
aren't an issue), tacking and jibing, winching in the genoa
sheets are not going to be difficult to handle with just
myself (with one eye on my child). Would welcome thosed
more experienced than myself sharing their impressions of
singlehanding the 25-D.
Thanks.
joels@ids.net
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
The 25D is an easy boat to sail single handed. I have a roller furling and frequnetly sail in the Atlantic Ocean single handed. It is a minor effort to put up the main when out by yourself but she keeps her nose to the wind fairy well. I use a harness and a line when I leave the cockpit and always wear a inflatible vest (its an all in one job life vest and harness). I also have everthing set up so when I am ready to raise the main all I have to do is pull the halyard. After I drop it I tie it quickly and once I get to the dock I fold and tie everthing nicely.Joel wrote: Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
I am considering purchasing a 1982 CD25D. My experience
has been with much lighter, smaller boats. Most recently a
West Wight Potter 19' . Most of the time (90% ?) I sail
singlehanded or with my 8 yr old daughter. Am also
considering the CD25. Although the larger cabin with its
standing head room (I'm 5' 10") is very attractive, I do not
want to get a boat that I need to wrestle with to sail
singlehanded.
I'm looking for reassurances from experienced CD25D skippers
that raising, lowering, reefing sails (the boat I'm looking
at has roller furling on the jib, so head sail changes
aren't an issue), tacking and jibing, winching in the genoa
sheets are not going to be difficult to handle with just
myself (with one eye on my child). Would welcome thosed
more experienced than myself sharing their impressions of
singlehanding the 25-D.
Thanks.
The boat is "stiff" and I go out of my way to pick days where wind is not above 15 knots and sea no more then 3 feet (10 knots and two foot seas is ideal) I feel very comfortable by myself in situations as described above.
I also sail her inside on the ICW, singlehanded, just using the roller fullering and the boat is a joy. Outside and on the ICW I have been forced to reef the roller furling and again feel very comfortable( if I have to reef the main I am going home)
I have been only been sailing for five years and started singlehandling the boat after having it for two years.
You will have no difficulty singlehandling and CD-25. Let me know how you make out.
Ken
kmerson@avaloninternet.net
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Joel:
The CD25D is a very stable, safe platform for a singlehander. While I would not encourage anyone to go sailing alone, my experience with KARMA, an '82 CD25D, has been pleasant. KARMA has roller reefing on the headsail (working jib), and the jiffy reefing on the mainsail is easy to use also. I have found that using an autopilot greatly improves a solo sailor's freedom of movement, especially when the wind pipes up. This boat can handle 25-30 knot 'breezes', but I don't like sailing in that kind of weather much. I tend to reef early, to keep the boat under control. It's always easier to 'shake it out', once you determine what the weather is going to do...
Fair Winds and Following Seas
Lou
s/v KARMA
louosten@ipass.net
The CD25D is a very stable, safe platform for a singlehander. While I would not encourage anyone to go sailing alone, my experience with KARMA, an '82 CD25D, has been pleasant. KARMA has roller reefing on the headsail (working jib), and the jiffy reefing on the mainsail is easy to use also. I have found that using an autopilot greatly improves a solo sailor's freedom of movement, especially when the wind pipes up. This boat can handle 25-30 knot 'breezes', but I don't like sailing in that kind of weather much. I tend to reef early, to keep the boat under control. It's always easier to 'shake it out', once you determine what the weather is going to do...
Fair Winds and Following Seas
Lou
s/v KARMA
louosten@ipass.net
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
I owned a 25D for one season and probably went sailing about 40 times, most of which was solo including a three day trip each way to Martha's Vineyard. It's an extremely seaworthy boat and very easy to sail. I sailed her a couple of times with winds in the high twenties (two reefs in the main and appropriate amount of jib)and she was fine. Not very fast with the deep reefs but very stable and never out of control. The only reason I sold her was to get a 30.Joel wrote: Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
In comparison with other 25' boats you can't go wrong with a 25D.
Good luck,
Gary
garym@taxinvest.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
I single hand a CD25 (not a CD25D) I bought last winter and my prior experience is mostly single handed cruising in small boats. The last 4 years have been cruising in a Montgomer 15. The Montgomer 15 is a keel centerboard and is slower to tack than a centerboard. The CD25 with the full keel is still slower through a tack than the M15. This makes single handed tacking a gracefull process even in brisk conditions.Joel wrote: Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
My CD25 has 1 deep reef in the main and no roller furling on the Jib. I have a 140% Genoa which I use a lot but due to sheeting it outside the shrouds it will not point as well as the working jib.
The CD25 beam is a little less than the CD25D and the winches are a little closer to the center line and therefore possibley easier to reach.
This season on the Chesapeak Bay has been blessed with some good winds and I have been out single handing in 25 kts on several occasions and the boat handles like a dream with the reefed main and working jib. Even though the CD25 has a very low freeboard it is suprisingly dry. I do try to avoid beating into the 4 - 6 ft waves on the bay. I did have a glorious 30 nm downwind run in 25 kts (Galesville to Solomons) and the boat was joy to handle.
Either boat is easy to single hand and are a joy to sail.
If you are anywhere near the Chesapeak Bay give me a call and I'll let you gain some first hand experience.
Doug
CD25 "Moon Shadow"
dkelch@cox.rr.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
I have singlehanded my CD25D manytimes with no trouble. She is a very seaworth boat and can take seas and wind with no trouble. I do like to reef down early because she tends to get overpowered in heavy winds. I'm also selling mine (a 82 CD25D) in Plymouth MA asking 18K if your interested. A young growing family and a seasick wife is not condusive to long sailing trips.
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
jandjadam@cs.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Joel wrote: I am considering purchasing a 1982 CD25D. My experience
has been with much lighter, smaller boats. Most recently a
West Wight Potter 19' . Most of the time (90% ?) I sail
singlehanded or with my 8 yr old daughter. Am also
considering the CD25. Although the larger cabin with its
standing head room (I'm 5' 10") is very attractive, I do not
want to get a boat that I need to wrestle with to sail
singlehanded.
I'm looking for reassurances from experienced CD25D skippers
that raising, lowering, reefing sails (the boat I'm looking
at has roller furling on the jib, so head sail changes
aren't an issue), tacking and jibing, winching in the genoa
sheets are not going to be difficult to handle with just
myself (with one eye on my child). Would welcome thosed
more experienced than myself sharing their impressions of
singlehanding the 25-D.
Thanks.
jandjadam@cs.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Jack
I second your comments on sailing the CD25 singlehanded. I sailed mine (CD25) out of Hingham and on the Cape with a hanked on Jib without any problems.
I have moved from Hingham to Portland, Oregon and am without a boat. I am looking for a CD25D and know that I will have a hard time finding one on the West Coast. Therefore, I'm looking at East Coast boats and will have to wind up shipping one out. Please send or e-mail me details of your boat along with pics if available. I plan to be in Boston / Hingham several times between now and early Fall and I would like to have the opportunity to see your boat.
Thanks
Mark
mmarroni@jhancock.com
I second your comments on sailing the CD25 singlehanded. I sailed mine (CD25) out of Hingham and on the Cape with a hanked on Jib without any problems.
I have moved from Hingham to Portland, Oregon and am without a boat. I am looking for a CD25D and know that I will have a hard time finding one on the West Coast. Therefore, I'm looking at East Coast boats and will have to wind up shipping one out. Please send or e-mail me details of your boat along with pics if available. I plan to be in Boston / Hingham several times between now and early Fall and I would like to have the opportunity to see your boat.
Thanks
Mark
mmarroni@jhancock.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Jack-Jack Adam wrote: I have singlehanded my CD25D manytimes with no trouble. She is a very seaworth boat and can take seas and wind with no trouble. I do like to reef down early because she tends to get overpowered in heavy winds. I'm also selling mine (a 82 CD25D) in Plymouth MA asking 18K if your interested. A young growing family and a seasick wife is not condusive to long sailing trips.
Sorry we missed a connection yesterday. Where is the boat located? I have flexibity in my schedule and would like to see the boat this week, if possible. If I'm interested after an outside inspection, then we can schedule a more complete review.
Please respond to me AOL address.
Thanks
Mike
Jack Adam wrote:
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Joel wrote: I am considering purchasing a 1982 CD25D. My experience
has been with much lighter, smaller boats. Most recently a
West Wight Potter 19' . Most of the time (90% ?) I sail
singlehanded or with my 8 yr old daughter. Am also
considering the CD25. Although the larger cabin with its
standing head room (I'm 5' 10") is very attractive, I do not
want to get a boat that I need to wrestle with to sail
singlehanded.
I'm looking for reassurances from experienced CD25D skippers
that raising, lowering, reefing sails (the boat I'm looking
at has roller furling on the jib, so head sail changes
aren't an issue), tacking and jibing, winching in the genoa
sheets are not going to be difficult to handle with just
myself (with one eye on my child). Would welcome thosed
more experienced than myself sharing their impressions of
singlehanding the 25-D.
Thanks.
mflconsult@aol.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Singlehanding is probably more a function of attitude than of boat. I most often sail our CD33 alone and my younger brother usually sails his Erickson 39 alone. Our CD33 has hanked on jibs and reefing is done from the mast. Once you get in the routine of sailing alone it is almost harder to let someone else join in.Joel wrote: Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Our club has an annual singlehanded race and boats, including larger than ours, all race around the buoys and pay strict attention to the navigation, race rules, and the sail trim.
As for size and strength, I weigh less than 140 and my brother is smaller than I am. I have seen smaller women singlehanding as well.
Al
albertlevesque@cove.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
>>I have found that using an autopilot greatly improves a solo sailor's freedom of movement, ...<<
Just have to remember that if you fall off, the autopolot doesn't know it. So is good to either use a harness if you leave the clockpit, or heave to, do what you have to, and then get back to sailing.
Where you been this summer???
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Just have to remember that if you fall off, the autopolot doesn't know it. So is good to either use a harness if you leave the clockpit, or heave to, do what you have to, and then get back to sailing.
Where you been this summer???
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
neil@nrgordon.com
Re: ease or difficulty of singlehanding CD-25D
Hi Neil,Neil Gordon wrote: Where you been this summer???
Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167
I'm assuming you're directing this question to me...well, I flew down to the US Virgins at the end of May, got aboard a friend's 50' Caliber (LRC 47), then we sailed around the BVIs for 4 days in AWESOME
(good) weather, then we jumped off from Virgin Gorda and sailed to Bermuda in 5 days, then my wife flew out and met me there for another 5 days, then we had to come home...what a bummer! I had never done a blue water cruise before and decided this was part of my mid-life crisis, so there you go...I wish I could have done it on KARMA, but she was probably a little small for the trip, although I met some people in Bermuda that had just sailed down from Halifax, NS, in a 30' boat, and there were no problems...as it turned out, on our Bermuda run, we had 2 days of honkin' trade winds (about 25 knots) which the caliber sailed well in, but then the wind died and we had to motor most of the remainder. BTW, my 'watch' was from 1:00 AM to 4:00 AM, and I didn't realize there were so many stars in the sky! There were meteors and shooting stars all night long, it was so cool!
Bermuda and the VIs were great, but you'll need a lot of money...most things were at least 2 times as much, some more.
CUL8R,
Lou Ostendorff
s/v KARMA (CD25D #63)
louosten@ipass.net