Keep it civilized gang....

Cathy Monaghan · Post by **Cathy Monaghan** » Apr 22nd, '11, 11:19

Keep it civilized gang....
Don't forget that nobody has to agree with everybody, we're human with our own opinions, that's the way it's supposed to be. If you don't agree with somebody, simply state your own opinion. Please, no name-calling.

Shouldn't you guys be at work or out working (better yet, sailing) on your boats?

Gotta go -- heading down to the boatyard to remove another layer of bottom paint.

Thanks,
Cathy
Webmaster - CDSOA, Inc.
CD32 Realization, #3

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 22nd, '11, 11:54

Good words that need repeating now and then Cathy.
Thanks for keeping the board sane.
Scott

Steve Laume · Post by **Steve Laume** » Apr 22nd, '11, 12:18

Thanks Cathy. I have always been impressed by the manners of our message board.

Scott, she did say civilized. If we were going for sanity, we would not be on a sailing board, Steve.

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 22nd, '11, 12:25

Steve,
You're right; we're all a little insane when it comes to wind power. That's why we all love it so much and can have these interesting discussions.

Scott

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Apr 22nd, '11, 12:36

Cathy Monaghan wrote:
Shouldn't you guys be at work or out working (better yet, sailing) on your boats?

Hmmmph !!! Easy for you to say, what with living and keeping your boat waaaaay down south in Joisy.

We're still having wet snow showers almost every day up here in tropical Oswego. Dasn't take a chance taking the boat cover off what with the #$%^&* weather we've been having ever since spring started.

Only kidding. I know that you guys live in North Joisy.

Happy scraping,

O J

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 22nd, '11, 16:11

Hate to tell you this OJ, but I'm heading down to the bay for a sail right after I write this note. "Angelina" is in the water with her newly repaired (encapsulated) rudder and this will be the sea trial. Hope I get back from the rough waters of San Diego Bay. Lucy, my black lab is first mate today.

Scott

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Apr 22nd, '11, 16:59

Hi Scott,

At the risk of scuttling Cathie's thread, I'll just say that I'm glad that you have the rudder repaired and are out on the bay.

I envy you because of the difference of weather between tropical Oswego (

) and southern California.

I really am very interested in just what procedure you used to rebuild your rudder. Pictures would be helpful.

Happy sailing,

O J

M. R. Bober · Post by **M. R. Bober** » Apr 22nd, '11, 18:53

Considering the length of time that this site has existed and the number of posts/posters, I think we qualify as a civil arena. I know that the webmistress/masters have exercised a bit of enforcement over the years, but the result is a friendly site.

The occasional troll, unfortunately, seems to be the price of admission. Remember trolls live under the bridge. They rarely get the helm.

Mitchell Bober
Sunny Lancaster, (where trolls are always in season) VA

Scott Launey · Post by **Scott Launey** » Apr 22nd, '11, 19:22

OJ,
I'll start a new thread with all the pictures and info on my rudder repair. This tread's run it's course I think.

Well spoken Mitchell

Scott

JWSutcliffe · Post by **JWSutcliffe** » Apr 30th, '11, 08:18

Duncan · Post by **Duncan** » Apr 30th, '11, 10:42

+1 on the bump

Here are some interesting comments on trolling.

The answer, as always, is "Don't feed the troll".

WaywardWind · Post by **WaywardWind** » Apr 30th, '11, 11:33

Hmmmm .... interesting comments by a tiny handful that it is heresy and treason, or at least trolling, to present what the rest of the nautical world knows to be fact, IF those facts were never prior known by that tiny handful.

Every year, on December 16th, The Man Will Never Fly Society (named for a statement made by one of Orville Wright's crew on that date in 1903) meets for dinner in North Carolina.

Believe it or not, there are STILL people who believe airflow over a sail is laminar, and that sails "sucks" a boat forward "because of the Bernoulli effect" (which has nothing to do at all with open sided air flow).

Let's not mention such things, for December 16th comes around every year. To the tiny handful, enjoy your dinner.

Geesh, I explain why a staysail stay run to the foredeck on sloop to effect a twin head sail conversion is fraught with problems, and a teeny, tiny, itsy bitsy handful argues that such information is trolling. I wonder what they might say if sailor informed them how to tie their shoelaces so the shoelaces never come undone.

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Apr 30th, '11, 12:04

Its no "tiny handful", its the vast majority who find your contributions to be rude and obnoxious.

As for the "facts" you often claim to state, most often its just your opinion which you claim to be a fact. Your desire to debate to the death any opinion you have is the issue. Most everyone else where can discuss things in a friendly manner. Trust me, your obnoxiousness does not make you come across as the expert you so wish to be seen as. Quite the opposite.

Seriously, knock it off, be friendly and accept that you are not always right about everything you say. Your opinions are most welcome though, right, wrong or somewhere in the middle. If you cant do that, then yes, you are probably trolling on purpose for whatever trill you get out of it. In which case I honestly think Cathy should just ban you, we dont need JAXAshbys on this board.

WaywardWind · Post by **WaywardWind** » Apr 30th, '11, 12:51

It is not my responsibility, moral or otherwise, to drag anyone into the mid to late 20th century.

"Not my job, mon."

Cape Dory's were sold as old men's boats, advertised heavily as "safer, because it has a full keel". What the gray Volvo was to automobiles.

Gray Volvo's had a lower accident rate, MUCH lower than red two-door cars of any make. Why? Old men -- who didn't drive much at all and not at all at night -- drove Volvo's, while young men -- who when they crashed cars, crashed solo early on Saturday/Sunday mornings after several hours of some beer drinking, chasing girls and playing pool after a hard 40 hours working during the week -- bought red two-door cars with a sporty look.

Volvo drivers to this day insist Volvo made/makes "safer" cars.

"Not my job, mon."

Geesh, I mention why it's not a good idea to attach a (converted) staysail stay to a foredeck and a tiny handful -- wearing elevator shoes? (that's a valid question in the outside world, is it permitted when speaking to dieties?) -- with an agenda come out of the woodwork claiming to represent the "the majority of Cape Dory owners."

Anyone who wants is most certainly welcome to ruin their foredecks using an ill-designed staysail stay conversion, but WHY do they insist the rest of the world, even the smaller subset of the world with Cape Dory boats, also wants to ruin their foredecks?

S/V Necessity · Post by **S/V Necessity** » Apr 30th, '11, 12:59

please check out the link that Duncan posted. It's very informative and will most likely have a great impact on your future postings. It may be a bit of a long read, but it's worth it.

The Cape Dory Board

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Thanks, Skip, for the gentle reminder

Hmmmm ... and shoelaces which don't come undone.

Port tacks

Just a suggestion.