New owner

[Marv Brinn]

Thanks to everyone who posted messages in reply to my questions..
I am now the proud owner of "Babe" a CD27
She resided in Ga and now is going to be at lake Hartwell.I think she is without a doubt the classiest lady there..

I am looking for info on what maint needs to be done on the seacocks and what would owners recommend to get the Yanmar off to a good start.I am pretty handy and would like to do the work myself.



Mibrinn@aol.com

[Neil Gordon]

I just did the seacocks on LIQUIDITY...

Is fairly simple, since they don't have a lot of parts. While the boat is out of the water (that part is really important if you want to keep the water on the outside of the boat!)... take the two nuts off, the seacock will easily disassemble. Clean everything. You can use a lapping compound to polish the working surfaces... sanding is not recommended. Grease the working parts inside and out with a good waterproof grease... bicycle grease has been recommended here... and reassemble. Close them when the boat is launched... open one at a time and check that the hoses, etc., are ok. When you leave the boat, it's a good idea to close everything but the seacocks for the cockpit drains.

The hard part is if you can't get the nuts off or if the seacocks are frozen. Lots of WD-40 will help. Then I used a vice grip on the nuts, then used leverage to turn the handle, with the vice grip against the hull, the nuts came off. The real problem is that you can't see and get two hands in the small spaces and get much leverage, which is why the vice grips helped a lot.

The seacocks are tough, but be careful if you have to bang them too hard to get them apart. You don't want to deform the threads.

Btw, are you planning on changing the name? There are all sorts of risks associated with that, if you don't do it right.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167



neil@nrgordon.com

[Bill Goldsmith]

Congratulations on your CD27. It is defintely one of those boats that causes you to stop, turn around and look again at her when you're all done and heading home.

The first things you'll need to get familiar with are changing the engine oil, oil filter, air filter, transmission oil, seawater impeller and belts. Even if the prior owner handed you a detailed, religiously updated maintenance schedule (unlikely??), it's a good idea to start fresh with these maintenance items when the boat is new to you. You'll also want to check for play in the cutless bearing and satisfy yourself that the engine is aligned with the shaft. Keep an eye on the stuffing box for excessive dripping or excessive dryness--with regular packing, it should drip several drops a minute while the shaft is turning. Also, always check to see that the exhaust is spitting water when you start her up--lack of water means either the impeller is broken or the intake is clogged, and results in overheating.

Those are the basics as I understand them--you'll learn alot more as the season prgresses!!

Again--congratulations on a great choice of boat.

Bill Goldsmith
CD27 # 173
Second Chance
New York

Find a local Yanmar dealer or a good mail order supplier (i.e. Boat/US has alot of Yanmar stuff) and buy a couple extra of everything.

Thanks to everyone who posted messages in reply to my questions..
I am now the proud owner of "Babe" a CD27
She resided in Ga and now is going to be at lake Hartwell.I think she is without a doubt the classiest lady there..

I am looking for info on what maint needs to be done on the seacocks and what would owners recommend to get the Yanmar off to a good start.I am pretty handy and would like to do the work myself.

goldy@bestweb.net

[Don S.]

I'd be REAL careful about using vise-grips in any bronze fittings. The very least you'll do is inbed permanent tooth marks, and you can easily distort the nut(s). But what ever wrenches you use should fit exactly -- bronze is very soft stuff.
Have fun and be sure there are no tender ears in the neighborhood.

Don Sargeant
CD25D #189
No more frozen seacocks

I just did the seacocks on LIQUIDITY...

Is fairly simple, since they don't have a lot of parts. While the boat is out of the water (that part is really important if you want to keep the water on the outside of the boat!)... take the two nuts off, the seacock will easily disassemble. Clean everything. You can use a lapping compound to polish the working surfaces... sanding is not recommended. Grease the working parts inside and out with a good waterproof grease... bicycle grease has been recommended here... and reassemble. Close them when the boat is launched... open one at a time and check that the hoses, etc., are ok. When you leave the boat, it's a good idea to close everything but the seacocks for the cockpit drains.

The hard part is if you can't get the nuts off or if the seacocks are frozen. Lots of WD-40 will help. Then I used a vice grip on the nuts, then used leverage to turn the handle, with the vice grip against the hull, the nuts came off. The real problem is that you can't see and get two hands in the small spaces and get much leverage, which is why the vice grips helped a lot.

The seacocks are tough, but be careful if you have to bang them too hard to get them apart. You don't want to deform the threads.

Btw, are you planning on changing the name? There are all sorts of risks associated with that, if you don't do it right.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167

don@cliggott.com

[Duncan Maio]

I am looking for info on what maint needs to be done on the seacocks and what would owners recommend to get the Yanmar off to a good start.

Marv:

The Yanmar probably needs little more than an oil change, fuel filters and an engine zinc. Check to make sure that the water pump is drawing in cooling water.

Check the transmission fluid, too - the easiest way to get to it is through the port cockpit locker. The engine oil drain tube is there too.

Duncan Maio
s/v Remedy
CD27 #37
Bristol, RI



dmaio@meganet.net

[Duncan Maio]

The first things you'll need to get familiar with are changing the engine oil, oil filter, air filter, transmission oil, seawater impeller and belts

Air filter? Oil filter? You guys with the three-digit hull numbers have all the accessories! Don't tell me you have a raw water strainer, too.

Duncan Maio
s/v Remedy
CD27 #37
Yanmar YSB-8
Bristol, RI



dmaio@meganet.net

[Neil Gordon]

>>I'd be REAL careful about using vise-grips in any bronze fittings. The very least you'll do is inbed permanent tooth marks, and you can easily distort the nut(s).<<

That's true, the trade-off being that in the small working space, I couldn't keep an adjustable wrench in place. Best would probably be a socket, if it could be placed securely over the nut and sufficient leverage applied to the handle. Lots depends on how cooperative the seacocks are.

>>Have fun and be sure there are no tender ears in the neighborhood.<<

And don't forget a good supply of bandaids, from working in proximity to all those hose clamps!


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167



neil@nrgordon.com

[don S.]

And 2 count em 2 fuel filters!

The first things you'll need to get familiar with are changing the engine oil, oil filter, air filter, transmission oil, seawater impeller and belts

Air filter? Oil filter? You guys with the three-digit hull numbers have all the accessories! Don't tell me you have a raw water strainer, too.

Duncan Maio
s/v Remedy
CD27 #37
Yanmar YSB-8
Bristol, RI

don@cliggott.com

[Bill Goldsmith]

It didn't cross my mind that the YSB-8 might not have oil and air filters. My 27 was repowered by a prior owner with a Yanmar 2GM20F hence my references to the additional equipment. No strainer on mine, but now that you mention it.............another project!!!

Bill

The first things you'll need to get familiar with are changing the engine oil, oil filter, air filter, transmission oil, seawater impeller and belts

Air filter? Oil filter? You guys with the three-digit hull numbers have all the accessories! Don't tell me you have a raw water strainer, too.

Duncan Maio
s/v Remedy
CD27 #37
Yanmar YSB-8
Bristol, RI

goldy@bestweb.net

[marv brin]

I just did the seacocks on LIQUIDITY...

Is fairly simple, since they don't have a lot of parts. While the boat is out of the water (that part is really important if you want to keep the water on the outside of the boat!)... take the two nuts off, the seacock will easily disassemble. Clean everything. You can use a lapping compound to polish the working surfaces... sanding is not recommended. Grease the working parts inside and out with a good waterproof grease... bicycle grease has been recommended here... and reassemble. Close them when the boat is launched... open one at a time and check that the hoses, etc., are ok. When you leave the boat, it's a good idea to close everything but the seacocks for the cockpit drains.

The hard part is if you can't get the nuts off or if the seacocks are frozen. Lots of WD-40 will help. Then I used a vice grip on the nuts, then used leverage to turn the handle, with the vice grip against the hull, the nuts came off. The real problem is that you can't see and get two hands in the small spaces and get much leverage, which is why the vice grips helped a lot.

The seacocks are tough, but be careful if you have to bang them too hard to get them apart. You don't want to deform the threads.

Btw, are you planning on changing the name? There are all sorts of risks associated with that, if you don't do it right.

The name will be changed but I believe that the new owner has no right to do so until a new relationship has been formed between the new owner and boat..
the boat knows that its name will be different but it is not good karma to make the change until such a time......Doesnt that sound a bit mystical???

Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167

mibrinn@aol.com

[Steve Ing]

Thanks to everyone who posted messages in reply to my questions..
I am now the proud owner of "Babe" a CD27
She resided in Ga and now is going to be at lake Hartwell.I think she is without a doubt the classiest lady there..

I am looking for info on what maint needs to be done on the seacocks and what would owners recommend to get the Yanmar off to a good start.I am pretty handy and would like to do the work myself.

I also recently purchased a CD 27 Hull #23 1977. What year and # is your's? I'm in south florida. GOOD LUCK !!!We love our's.



CHIPING@TCOL.NET

[Neil Gordon]

>>the boat knows that its name will be different but it is not good karma to make the change until such a time...<<

We waited a year. It's dangerous to change the name... since badly named boats tend to sink! The proof that the old name is a good one is the fact that the boat has floated with it.

One solution is to keep the old name on board, one way or another. I used rubbing compound to remove the old name from the transom... and the old name was sucked into the rag I used, which is safely stored on board.

Good luck!


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167



neil@nrgordon.com

[Warren Kaplan]

One solution is to keep the old name on board, one way or another. I used rubbing compound to remove the old name from the transom... and the old name was sucked into the rag I used, which is safely stored on board.

Good luck!


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167

Neil,

Boy! I like that! Sucking the name up into a rag and keeping it on board. The present name on my new boat is in vinyl so I suppose I could just take the letters off and leave them nicely tucked into a lazarette!. Now here's a twist for all you nautical fokelore people that I need an opinion on. The person I bought my CD27 from sold it because he got a CD30. He is using the same name for the CD 30 as is presently on the CD 27. Questions;
1) Is there any accursed taboo about knowingly having 2 boats with the same name (in this case named for the same person)?
2) Knowing that the old name is actually not being discarded but rather being "transferred"...does that offer the new owner of the CD27 some dispensation from the foulness that might otherwise beset his boat by renaming it?

Warren Kaplan
CD27
#166



Setsail728@aol.com

[Neil Gordon]

>>Is there any accursed taboo about knowingly having 2 boats with the same name...<<

I've never heard that one. But you raise a good point... I'd be careful!!!

>>Knowing that the old name is actually not being discarded but rather being "transferred"...<<

That might help the name change, yes. But... the real risk is that you don't know for sure what name the boat likes... the only way they have to tell you is either by floating or sinking. So... keeping the old name on board remains a good idea.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167



neil@nrgordon.com

[Catherine Monaghan]

It's not what name the boat likes, it's what name the sea gods like. You have to appease Neptune or that thunk you hear in the night will be his trident trying to poke a hole through the bottom of your boat.

Better use the <a href="http://www.48north.com/aug97/denaming.h ... g/renaming ceremony</a>.

catherine_monaghan@merck.com
CD32 Realization, #3
Rahway, NJ
Raritan Bay
<a href="http://www.hometown.aol.com/bcomet/real ... lization's Home Page</a>

>>Is there any accursed taboo about knowingly having 2 boats with the same name...<<

I've never heard that one. But you raise a good point... I'd be careful!!!

>>Knowing that the old name is actually not being discarded but rather being "transferred"...<<

That might help the name change, yes. But... the real risk is that you don't know for sure what name the boat likes... the only way they have to tell you is either by floating or sinking. So... keeping the old name on board remains a good idea.


Regards, Neil
s/v LIQUIDITY
Cape Dory 28 #167

catherine_monaghan@merck.com