Removing 2 cushions
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- Warren Kaplan
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Removing 2 cushions
Its time to get new cushions for the cabin of my CD27. I really spend little time in the cabin except for overnighting some weekends.
I'll certainly replace all the vee berth cushions and I'll do the cabin seat cushions on the port and starboard berths. I'm thinking of not replacing the seat back cushions in the cabin.
I have to remove them when sleeping because they narrow the berth width. I always have to take them down to get to the storage lockers behind them. The wood finish of the seat backs is good looking and would not make for a bad appearance. And, of course, I'd save some money on replacing 4 cushions rather than six. Which means I could use better quality material for the 4 cushions I am going to replace.
Has anybody done this? Please tell me if you think having just the seat cushions would make the cabin look lousy. Frankly, I've been aboard many gorgeous boats (or seen pictures of them) that had no seat back cushions and looked great.
Thanks.
I'll certainly replace all the vee berth cushions and I'll do the cabin seat cushions on the port and starboard berths. I'm thinking of not replacing the seat back cushions in the cabin.
I have to remove them when sleeping because they narrow the berth width. I always have to take them down to get to the storage lockers behind them. The wood finish of the seat backs is good looking and would not make for a bad appearance. And, of course, I'd save some money on replacing 4 cushions rather than six. Which means I could use better quality material for the 4 cushions I am going to replace.
Has anybody done this? Please tell me if you think having just the seat cushions would make the cabin look lousy. Frankly, I've been aboard many gorgeous boats (or seen pictures of them) that had no seat back cushions and looked great.
Thanks.
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- Steve Laume
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Warren, I have gone a slightly different route. I got rid of my vee berth cushions. Took them off of the boat anyway. If my son wants to sleep up there I have a couple of Therm a Rest backpacking pads to unroll. I have everything painted up nice and added some stowage access panels in the vee berth area.
In the main salon I have made an insert in two pieces to fit between the settees. This essentially makes the entire salon a sleeping area. I am thinking about making the seat backs thicker so they can be used individually instead of doubled up to make up this arrangement. I use regular queen sized sheets. There are no issues with being able to sit up like in the vee berth. You can stretch out all you like. It makes a great arrangement for two people which is how most of us seem to use our boats most of the time.
My cushions are still in pretty decent shape so I am thinking about making covers for them that would go on like fitted sheets. It would make it very easy to make covers and also to take them home and through them in the washing machine while leaving the original covers in place. I do have a dog so washing ease is an important consideration.
If I can get my shituff together I would like to write this up for a newsletter article.
I also use those seat backs to help insulate the bunks in colder weather when I am using them in the standard manner. I lift up the wooden seat back and then stuff the cushion in it's place to keep the cold away.
I kind of like the seat backs. If they could double as cockpit cushions that would be excellent, Steve.
In the main salon I have made an insert in two pieces to fit between the settees. This essentially makes the entire salon a sleeping area. I am thinking about making the seat backs thicker so they can be used individually instead of doubled up to make up this arrangement. I use regular queen sized sheets. There are no issues with being able to sit up like in the vee berth. You can stretch out all you like. It makes a great arrangement for two people which is how most of us seem to use our boats most of the time.
My cushions are still in pretty decent shape so I am thinking about making covers for them that would go on like fitted sheets. It would make it very easy to make covers and also to take them home and through them in the washing machine while leaving the original covers in place. I do have a dog so washing ease is an important consideration.
If I can get my shituff together I would like to write this up for a newsletter article.
I also use those seat backs to help insulate the bunks in colder weather when I am using them in the standard manner. I lift up the wooden seat back and then stuff the cushion in it's place to keep the cold away.
I kind of like the seat backs. If they could double as cockpit cushions that would be excellent, Steve.
Re: Removing 2 cushions
I have seen a lot of boats like this as well, particularly boats that have the pilot berth behind the settee, thus to make room for the berth the setee is rather narrow and no room for the cusion. I think it looks fine and would look fine on your boat.Warren Kaplan wrote: Has anybody done this? Please tell me if you think having just the seat cushions would make the cabin look lousy. Frankly, I've been aboard many gorgeous boats (or seen pictures of them) that had no seat back cushions and looked great.
I would have a couple pillows made up that double as throw pillows to put behind your back for comfort when sitting, and used for your head when sleeping.
Russell
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On our 25D, we removed the back cushions and the swing-up backboards. We bought a couple of large throw pillows at Pier 1. It really opened up the cabin, made the bunks ready to flop on to, and eliminated the need to stow the back cushions at night. As Russell says, you put one behind your back while, say, eating at the table; or you lean it against the bulkhead for reclining/reading. We never regretted doing that. But we did save all the parts and put the boat back into "stock" condition before we sold it.
We have not done this on the 31, because we like to sleep in the vee berth, leaving the main salon as "living room." But there are times during the day when I just want to flop on to a settee, and doggone it, they are narrow with the seat backs and cushions there.
Dean
We have not done this on the 31, because we like to sleep in the vee berth, leaving the main salon as "living room." But there are times during the day when I just want to flop on to a settee, and doggone it, they are narrow with the seat backs and cushions there.
Dean
Dean Abramson
Cape Dory 31 "Loda May"
Falmouth, Maine
Cape Dory 31 "Loda May"
Falmouth, Maine
Interesting idea!
Gosh, Warren--Occam's razor strikes again (sorta)!
Somehow, I never thought of ditching the backing cushions entirely, even when they've slid all over the place as the boat heels. . .I was too focused on how to secure them in some reasonable fashion.
We DO spend a lot of time below. as we like being at anchor, cooking in the galley, then hanging out afterwards. But Russell's "make lots of throw pillows" advice (and I've already made a bunch) takes care of lounging quite nicely. Plus, throw pillows are quite easy to store.
Thanks, yall, for a fresh take on this.
Judith
Somehow, I never thought of ditching the backing cushions entirely, even when they've slid all over the place as the boat heels. . .I was too focused on how to secure them in some reasonable fashion.
We DO spend a lot of time below. as we like being at anchor, cooking in the galley, then hanging out afterwards. But Russell's "make lots of throw pillows" advice (and I've already made a bunch) takes care of lounging quite nicely. Plus, throw pillows are quite easy to store.
Thanks, yall, for a fresh take on this.
Judith
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Gosh, Warren--Occam's razor strikes again (sorta)!
Judith,
And here I thought I reasoned this all out with intense, complex and exacting logic which still brought me to the inexorable conclusion that just "chuckin' those back cushions overboard" was the best solution. Occam was right!!
Judith,
And here I thought I reasoned this all out with intense, complex and exacting logic which still brought me to the inexorable conclusion that just "chuckin' those back cushions overboard" was the best solution. Occam was right!!
"I desire no more delight, than to be under sail and gone tonight."
(W. Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice)
(W. Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice)
I feel your pain
Warren,And here I thought I reasoned this all out with intense, complex and exacting logic which still brought me to the inexorable conclusion that just "chuckin' those back cushions overboard" was the best solution.
Don't you hate when that happens? Sometimes it's just plain annoying.
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- Clay Stalker
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Back Cushion
Hi Warren-
I never had back cushions on Salsa, my CD27 and it looked fine....I never missed them.
I never had back cushions on Salsa, my CD27 and it looked fine....I never missed them.
Clay Stalker
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Another approach to the problem ........
I had size problems with the settee berths: too narrow and too short (for me -- I'm 6'3" @235#). But, like Clay, I realized that sitting was just as comfortable w/o the back cushions and they constantly came adrift while heeled. So, I took them off the boat and never looked back. Further along I realized that only the top part of my back touched the backrest and the lower part did not. The backrest storage was marginal -- what I wanted always seemed to migrate into some unreachable location. I then removed the bottoms of the backrests, added more ash ceiling strips to the liner (after some judicious grinding away & reglassing of the backrest supports), and trimmed the area out to match the rest of the interior. The wider bunks (P & S) were a huge improvement but the stbd one, where I normally bunk, was still too short for me. The next step was to cut away the bottom of the blkhd, add a hinge, a latch at the top, extend the bunk board, add a wider & longer cushion, and trim everything out to match the rest of the interior.
This modification has greatly improved comfort while sleeping, has not affected seated comfort, hasn't hurt storage that much, and gives a feeling of much more space to the main cabin. The swing-up shelf is a nice addition to the Ham station (shown in its boilerplate configuration here) for a logbook, notebook, key, etc. The Ham installation will also have a PTC-3e modem in place for HF email, an XM radio tuner, and a few other goodies.
I hope the picture comes through as I've spent most of this cold day figuring out how to do that (this is my first attempt at a posted pic!)
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This modification has greatly improved comfort while sleeping, has not affected seated comfort, hasn't hurt storage that much, and gives a feeling of much more space to the main cabin. The swing-up shelf is a nice addition to the Ham station (shown in its boilerplate configuration here) for a logbook, notebook, key, etc. The Ham installation will also have a PTC-3e modem in place for HF email, an XM radio tuner, and a few other goodies.
I hope the picture comes through as I've spent most of this cold day figuring out how to do that (this is my first attempt at a posted pic!)
[img]http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff27 ... 100022.jpg[/img]
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Pic didn't work ...@#$%^&*
Hmmmm ........ problem at the concept level -- I'll keep trying
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Andy,Andy Denmark wrote:Hmmmm ........ problem at the concept level -- I'll keep trying
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Thanks david -- here goes again
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Thanks David!
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