CD25 - What type of anchor shackle??

KDreese · Post by **KDreese** » Jun 7th, '07, 08:48

I have a CD25 and I dont have a bow roller for the anchor, so I plan to keep the anchor in the cockpit locker and then when needed attach it to the rode and deploy. However, when I bought the boat it didnt have a shackle on the anchor chain so I was wondering what people use to attach the chain to the eye in the rope rode? Also, any idea where to buy them (West Marine)?

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Jun 7th, '07, 09:53

Ideally you would use a rope to chain splice here, but I can see how this does not work felll for your situation. Just a regular galvanized shackle can be used here, the same kind you use to attach the anchor to the chain.

Oswego John · Post by **Oswego John** » Jun 7th, '07, 10:22

Some people use a galvanized thimble inside of the rope's eyesplice.

O J

Cathy Monaghan · Post by **Cathy Monaghan** » Jun 7th, '07, 10:29

Screw Pin Anchor Shackle

You'll find them in any marine store including West Marine, Defender, Marine.com, etc. The size you purchase will be based on the size of the chain and the thimble on the rode. Somewhere in the mix (where the rode meets the chain or where the chain meets the anchor) there should be a jaw swivel as well.

Jaw Swivel

KDreese · Post by **KDreese** » Jun 7th, '07, 10:31

so you buy two of those? One to attach to the chain end and one to attach to the end of the rode?

Joe CD MS 300 · Post by **Joe CD MS 300** » Jun 7th, '07, 12:10

The shackle size should be one step up from the chain size. For example with 5/16" chain use a 3/8" shackle. Try to buy those made in the USA rather than ones made in China. The USA made items will often have a blue or red tinted pin. The USA made shackles are almost twice the price of imports but remember "for want of a horse a kingdom was lost".

s-dupuis · Post by **s-dupuis** » Jun 7th, '07, 12:27

Remember to seize the pin to the shackle(s) with wire to prevent the pin from turning.

Steve

Russell · Post by **Russell** » Jun 7th, '07, 12:27

Skip the swivel, some people use them where the chain connects to the anchor, thats your choice, but not where the rope connects to the chain (just an extra and unnessisary failure point).

Neil Gordon · Post by **Neil Gordon** » Jun 7th, '07, 16:19

KDreese wrote:so you buy two of those? One to attach to the chain end and one to attach to the end of the rode?

Unless your chain only has one end, you'll need two shackles, one for the anchor and one for the rode. You can eliminate a shackle by splicing rope to chain... cut the eye off and follow the instructions (there's a good example online if you do the Google search).

Maine Sail · Post by **Maine Sail** » Jun 7th, '07, 21:40

The difference between "import" shackles and US made shackles is that the US made shackles with the red or blue pin are drop forged and very, very strong compared to the cast shackles from over seas. Two years ago a guy "saving a buck" used cast shackles on his mooring and out of 1200 boats in the Falmouth anchorage his was the only one to lose a shackle and smash into my boat! DO NOT use cast shackles!!

If you don't understand the difference between casting and forging you can Google it but suffice it to say forged items are much stronger than a casting..

s-dupuis · Post by **s-dupuis** » Jun 8th, '07, 07:29

Thank-you for posting this message (cast or forged).

I often seek to find and use hardware, usually stainless steel items, that can be found in places other than those with the name 'marine' attached. A company called Fastenal is good for these.
I've purchased shackles at the local hardware store, thinking 'shackles are shackles, why pay premium prices'. Now I know better, thanks to your post.
I'll be replacing the shackles on my mooring and ground tackle ASAP.
Hmmm, I wonder if Fastenal has forged shackles?

Thanks again. This board is great!

Steve

Zeida · Post by **Zeida** » Jun 8th, '07, 20:17

On my CD25 I kept the Danforth anchor hanging from the bow pulpit. West Marine or any other marine store will sell the two bow anchor clips, which you can install easily and have the anchor at ready when you need it in a hurry, which is almost always the case.
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KDreese · Post by **KDreese** » Jun 9th, '07, 08:55

Cool. Thanks for the picture. I think I will do something like that. I was thinking maybe on the starboard side, but I like your solution better. I am concerned about having the anchor in the locker because if something happened I would never be able to release it fast enough especially sailing solo. Definately going to put the Danforth anchor there and keep the 20lb CQR in the locker for overnight/extended anchoring. This board rules.

Zeida · Post by **Zeida** » Jun 9th, '07, 14:17

After a few times dealing with the anchor, chain, rode, etc. on my CD-25 and being a singlehander, I gradually looked for and found ways to make my life easier.

The picture is of my current CD-33, but I had the same exact thing on the 25.

On the CD25, I cut a 2' x 2' square on the forward bulkhead of the V-berth and discovered an unused space there, forward of the bulkhead, just the right amount of space to drop the anchor rode . Then I cut a hole on deck (as per photo) and installed a "rope/chain deck pipe" through which I could easily drop the anchor rode into the bow area of the boat for storage. it made for a nicer arrangement and kept the deck neater. Then I made a frame for the V-berth "window" and added a small door there, so I could always inspect the most forward and critical area of the hull, plus I could check the anchor rode and made sure it was always neatly coiled for the next time.

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sra ... f29d07.jpg[/img]

I also added two extra bow cleats on my CD33, because there are never enough cleats on these boats.

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